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[–] kadu@lemmy.world 284 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (60 children)

YouTube's argument is the same as Linus' from LTT: if you watch a video without ads, you're failing to comply with your side of the transaction, thus essentially pirating that content and stealing the revenue source.

Regardless if we agree or not with that statement, I'll absolutely side with adblockers always for a deeper issue: it's my screen, so I get the ultimate say on what content gets rendered. Quite literally. It's my network, my cable, my screen, my graphics card, my web browser running JavaScript on my CPU - you do not, ever, get to overreach and decide what pixels show up or not. If I don't want your obnoxious ad for an AI girlfriend to show up, there's no moral argument to be had here.

EDIT: I think some of you are missing the point of this comment. There's no reason to reply to me countering the argument in the first paragraph, as it is not my comment, in fact, I specifically mentioned how it's YouTube (and Linus') argument.

[–] warm@kbin.earth 181 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (3 children)

I was happy with an ad at the side of the video. Then they started popping up over my video, then they started appearing before my video, then they started appearing throughout my video. Companies shot themselves in the foot with online advertising, banner ads and such weren't much of a problem, but once ads start disrupting the content we visit a site for, then we look to block them ads. More people blocking ads is less revenue, so they make the ads more aggressive... and the cycle continues.

And on a side note, Linus can fuck off.

[–] Evilcoleslaw@lemmy.world 63 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (1 children)

That and the large ad networks even on sites like YouTube and Facebook literally are advertising scams. Every time I browse shorts on either I get ads that are obvious scams of the "There's a new $6400 monthly health credit see if you qualify." variety. On one of Meta's apps I got an ad that was for male enhancement that was straight up clips of uncensored hardcore porn. Not just nudity but full on PIV sex. If they can't even do the work to properly screen their ads they can get fucked, I'm blocking all of it that I can.

[–] forgotaboutlaye@lemmy.world 8 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Yeah I don't mind ads if they're relevant - I scroll through insta reels from time to time, and am always getting ads about concerts I'm interested in, restaurants I haven't tried and sales at shops I go to.

I honestly don't mind so much, and if it's not relevant to me I can scroll past without having to watch.

[–] AWittyUsername@lemmy.world 4 points 7 months ago (1 children)

In order to get relevant ads you have to opt in to give them your data. Do you do that?

[–] forgotaboutlaye@lemmy.world 3 points 7 months ago

In order to use the platform in the EU, you either opt into personalised ads or pay a monthly subscription. So yes, I'm aware they're using my data for the ads.

Google does as well, but they don't seem to be able to offer me even relatively relevant ads based on my interests.

[–] Johanno@feddit.de 3 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (1 children)

Non disruptive ads were meant to advertise.

Slightly annoying ads were meant to be seen more, since people just ignored banners by default.

Hidden ads (like an ad in an article which you really could tell it was an ad) were meant to increase the image of a company.

Disruptive ads like in YouTube or Spotify aren't meant for advertising. They don't really care about the advertising money, they want to force you to buy premium. The more annoying the ad is the higher the chances you pay 20€ a month for them to go away.

[–] warm@kbin.earth 6 points 7 months ago

These days maybe, but disruptive ads started way before subscriptions became a thing.

[–] OtherPetard@feddit.nl 1 points 7 months ago

Yeah, the pre-ads (unstoppable) and the massively increased loading times of the basic Youtube page makes it impossible to successfully Rickroll people

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