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[–] circuitfarmer@lemmy.sdf.org 98 points 1 year ago (20 children)

Americans need to embrace public transit. We need trains that don't completely suck in both speed and schedule reliability.

We're never going to convince a lot of folks to leave their lifted F-150 or massive Suburban behind for a small car. But quality, affordable public transit that is not only efficient but saves money over owning a car would actually make a difference. We're more likely to be able to get people to just leave the F-150 in the driveway and eventually move away from it.

Much better for the environment, too, and reduces traffic / congestion, etc. I agree smaller cars would be good, but the goalpost should be getting away from the automobile.

[–] JDPoZ@lemmy.world 46 points 1 year ago (11 children)

Americans need to embrace public transit.

Bad framing.

Instead of asking Americans to just embrace our absolutely shit public transit (which they won't do and will become more angry and obstinate about in its current condition), we need to push representatives into office that are far more left-leaning and not fucking autocrats who will MANDATE massive increases in taxes on billionaires and legislate much more significant subsidization of public transit to the point that it is MASSIVELY expanded and improved to a degree that it starts to look like what we see in actual 1st world countries like Japan, Europe, and pretty much all the Nordic countries. See "Not Just Bikes" for countless great examples of how other countries do this to a degree that it should be embarrassing for the US.

They didn't get the public to "embrace public transit." They made it good enough to the point that even the rich use it. It's the same for anything. You have to show how good it can be. Then people will "embrace it" and guard it from dismantling by the rich looking to line their pockets. It's why even ghoulish Republicans won't touch Medicare. It was made GOOD by FDR's administration, and now it is political suicide to do anything to water it down.

We need some bold leftist president to yell from the bully pulpit about high-speed bullet trains and advocate for it like Kennedy did for the Moon race.

Fixing things here means not only having lots of trains that stick to schedules, but regulating it very strongly and mandating adequate staffing, paying those staff well enough to live a dignified life, and providing proper training for every employee.

But the real sad fact is, there are so many other problems stacked on top of each other that all need addressing that are not only not being addressed, but directly worsened year over year - things like mass homelessness, housing unavailability, rising cost of living, zoning making nothing everyone needs to access (like grocery stores) within a public transit-friendly distance, that this will probably not happen ever...

[–] JeffCraig@citizensgaming.com -1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

It's more complex than that.

The way the US is spread out makes public transit prohibitively expensive and difficult to achieve proper coverage. To make it effective, you would have to shift the entire way we live. Our entire society is built off the concept that everyone has a car.

Add to the fact that building transit is extra expensive in the US and you arrive at the reality that we will NEVER have a working transit system. That's why the shift to small cars is needed. We don't have any more room for roads, so we need more cars to fit in the roads we have

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