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World’s first ‘superfast’ battery offers 400km range from 10 mins charge::Tesla, Toyota and VW supplier CATL says production will begin in 2023

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[–] aidan@lemmy.world 48 points 1 year ago (19 children)

How quickly will capacity degrade charging at that speed?

[–] xuniL@lemmy.dbzer0.com 21 points 1 year ago (18 children)

Other challenges include access to battery materials and battery degradation, though CATL claims this second pain point is not an issue with its latest battery.

[–] aidan@lemmy.world 24 points 1 year ago (17 children)

If true then that's the real innovation for me. I don't want a car that I basically need to replace 70% the cost of every 4-5 years.

[–] Player2@sopuli.xyz 22 points 1 year ago (1 children)

That's already not the case. Not only do you not need to replace the battery (the range is just slightly reduced over time), the degredation is a lot slower than that.

[–] aidan@lemmy.world 7 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Yes reduced range is very important- especially when you live in a cold climate where range is already significantly reduced from that. The cold climate also speeds up the degradation of the battery.

[–] Cethin@lemmy.zip 4 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Do you have experience? Adoption of EV vehicles in Norway is really high without much issue, and it's likely colder than wherever you live. Plus, 400km is a lot. The average commute in America is 66km. 400km might be used on a fairly long road trip, but if you can charge in 10m it's not really an issue. The everyday experience is just plug it in at home and it's done by morning. No gas station visits or anything else.

[–] aidan@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Most Norwegians also have much more disposable income than I. I wouldn't buy a new gas powered car either.

[–] Cethin@lemmy.zip 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Sure. That's probably true but has nothing to do with the viability of EVs on a cold climate.

[–] aidan@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Nor does their market share in a cold climate where people can afford many more luxury goods- replaced more often.

[–] Cethin@lemmy.zip 2 points 1 year ago

They aren't just replacing them. That's a disingenuous argument. The fear mongering that EVs can't work in cold climates is just mostly made up. There are plenty of ways to handle it that saying they don't make sense is a horrible argument.

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