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Or in short: we need more things that were made because someone wanted to tell that particular story, not because someone needed to fill a slot in a release schedule.
Yeah, too often stories involve just phoning parts in (or the majority, as was the case with episode 8). The story they end up releasing is full of plot holes and tactical and strategic errors.
They didn't even try to create a coherent sequel trilogy arc and gave the different pieces to different people, one of whom didn't really like star wars fans (though to be fair, I enjoyed that aspect at the time because the fanbase can be pretty toxic and Kylo Ren, from my interpretation, was making fun of toxic fans who turn their passion into shit for others they deem unworthy), and the other seemed to hate star wars itself. At least, that's the only way I can understand how episode 8 ended up being such a steaming pile of shit. Rian hated heroes and people not following orders and shoehorned those positions into a series that heavily features heroes improvising in ways that often went directly against what they were told to do.
See, I feel like you're missing the point here when you bring up Last Jedi as your negative example.
If you didn't like the movie, fair play, that's your deal, but it is most certainly not an example of something being phoned in. Whatever else you may feel about Last Jedi, whether or not you agree with the choices it made, it was clearly made with passion and intent. Rian had an artistic vision for the movie, he had things he wanted to say. The reason it gets so much hate is mostly because the things he wanted a) didn't mesh with what the fans wanted to hear, and b) didn't really line up with what anyone else involved in new Star Wars wanted to say. What he offered was a very bold, very different new direction for the series, but it was a road that no one else was interested in going down. And you can fairly make the argument that that's a failing as a film-maker; sometimes you need to know your audience. But either way, it was the story that he wanted to tell, so much so that it ended up not being the story that anyone wanted to hear.
If you want to talk about movies that exist just to exist, that were made without passion or purpose, you're looking for Rise of Skywalker.
I stopped reading when they chose 8 to shit on over 7 or 9