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Climate Protestors Storm Tesla's Gigafactory in Europe (www.wired.com)
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Tesla’s German factory, which produces electric cars and batteries, has for months been the target of protests by climate activists, who call the company’s green credentials a sham.

“Companies like Tesla are there to save the car industry, they're not there to save the climate,” Esther Kamm, spokesperson for Turn Off the Tap on Tesla (known by its German initialism TDHA) told WIRED last week.

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[–] BedSharkPal@lemmy.ca -5 points 6 months ago (7 children)

I really don't understand this... Sure Elon is a horrendous person. But electric cars are needed to help lower emissions...

And yes, ideally cars would no longer be a thing, but that is a very very long term goal.

[–] GregorGizeh@lemmy.zip 46 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (2 children)

The factory is threatening the water supply of the area, and the planned expansion will decimate the forest. Not to mention that the only reason Tesla is even there is because the politicians did everything short of sucking elons dick to get it. It is only about the prestige of having the hip new car maker (as usual, politicians are years behind the public perception) produce in car country Germany.

[–] huginn@feddit.it 3 points 6 months ago

Who gives a fuck about a tiny patch of forest when compared to reducing climate emissions?

I fucking hate Cars. I want them out of our cities and out of our lives. They're shackles and chains around our social fabric.

But they're never going entirely away and every gas car we replace with an electric car is a categorical success. We should make building massive battery plants cheaper.

Because you can't drink water if you're dead and no forest will compare in carbon impact per square foot when weighed against the reductions that electric vehicles bring us.

We can replant forests once this catastrophe is handled but we're in red fucking alert and any progress against gas cars is good progress. Damn the short term consequences.

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