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[–] WaterLizard@beehaw.org 9 points 5 months ago (6 children)

Hillary won the democratic nomination because older voters turned out more to vote in her favor. While young voters primaries for Bernie, the overwhelming majority of those voting in the primaries were older.

Like Barack Obama eight years ago, Bernie Sanders captured the vote of younger voters under 30, and they made up a greater percentage of the electorate in 2016 (17 percent) than in 2008 (14 percent). And Sanders fared better among these younger voters, winning 71 percent of voters under 30 (compared to 59 percent for Obama in 2008). Voters between 30 and 44 made up 23 percent of Democratic primary voters, and they were almost evenly divided between Hillary Clinton and Bernie Sanders. In most of the states where exit polls were conducted, the candidate who won the vote of 30 to 44 year olds won the primary. Six in 10 Democratic voters were over the age of 45, and as she did eight years ago, Hillary Clinton won the support of older voters. Clinton won 64 percent of voters between 45 and 64 and 71 percent of voters 65 and older.

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If more youth turned out to vote in the Primaries in an equal or stronger force than older voters, Bernie would have had the nomination.

Regarding Democrats not doing anything to support immigrants, DREAM Act and DACA were ushered in with greater force and an expansion was attempted due to Obama despite Republicans consistently fighting it or Republican Governors suing against it. The expansion was stalled by our conservative Supreme Court, but would have been successful if we had more left leaning judges. General overview. It's not that democrats are not attempting these things, but more so we lack the majorities in Congress and on SCOTUS. There is the potential of more justices retiring in the next presidential cycle and whoever wins has the ability to make the court more right or left leaning which will have an impact on this.

[–] thisisnotgoingwell@programming.dev 3 points 5 months ago (5 children)

You're missing a lot of context. You're examining the contents of the effect, without looking at the cause.

The DNC rigged the primaries before any ballots were cast. They conspired against Bernie Sanders to have Hillary as the nominee and worked to sabotage Bernie's run for presidency. Talking about exit poll statistics doesn't really mean much. The corruption was already well underway.

https://www.politico.com/magazine/story/2017/11/02/clinton-brazile-hacks-2016-215774/

[–] godzilla_lives@beehaw.org 4 points 5 months ago (2 children)

It's mind-boggling to hear people cry foul about Bernie Sanders when the man himself has endorsed Biden and is actively helping him campaign.

[–] thisisnotgoingwell@programming.dev 2 points 5 months ago (1 children)

What's mind boggling about it? Bernie Sanders wasn't a prophet. He ran on a platform and we believed in his candidacy. Just because he bent over for Hillary doesn't mean that suddenly now she's a great candidate. If he had to bite down on the rag, I don't fault him for that. But asking people to get on board "just this once" every election is just a carrot on the stick. It's always "but this one is SUPER important, set yourself aside and pick the lesser evil, eventually we can get what we want." There is no "eventually" and there never will be as long as you and others like you show that you're willing to throw your ideals away because of this season's boogieman

[–] godzilla_lives@beehaw.org 4 points 5 months ago

I voted for Bernie twice, in the 2016 primaries and again in the 2020 primaries. I donated a few hundred bucks as well. After he lost, I voted for the candidate he endorsed, because in my view, the candidate he endorsed would get us closer to the ideals he espoused, and certainly not the GOP. That is why it's mind-boggling.

If he had to bite down on the rag

Sexist and uncalled for. Do better.

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