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Vermont becomes 1st state to enact law requiring oil companies pay for damage from climate change (apnews.com)
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[–] DessertStorms@kbin.social 1 points 5 months ago (3 children)

So they can pay a relative pittance to keep chugging along uninterrupted, and pass the cost on to the consumer.
Yeah, that'll fix things...

[–] pearsaltchocolatebar@discuss.online 14 points 5 months ago (2 children)

I mean, it's a step in the right direction. Don't let perfect stand in the way of good.

[–] DessertStorms@kbin.social 1 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (1 children)

I am sooooo fucking sick and tired of people touting out that tired cliché to defend capitalists..

I think instead we should start saying "don't let the manipulation by their benefactors stand in the way of the reality of the systems they maintain".

I doubt anyone is expecting perfection at this point, I know I'm not (it being a literal impossibility and all), but them pretending to be "good" and you buying it, doesn't actually make it any good at all (as I said - it's just giving them the space to continue as they are for a fee that they will never pay, their trapped customers will).

Defending this bullshit as the good we should be happy to compromise for serves no one but the people running the oil companies (and the politicians they pay to ensure such legislation has no legs).

You are playing their game, and supporting their team, bathing in the placation of their greenwashing and letting them get away with it. That is what's in the way of good.

[–] thejevans@lemmy.ml 13 points 5 months ago

I will continue to work to regulate oil and gas from within the government (my job), and I will do my best at that, but it is definitely not enough.

It's important to take the easy wins where we can that will potentially slow the climate crisis while fighting for more. There is no reason we can't do both.