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I’m probably just out of the loop, but what the hell is up with slapping “Punk” after some random word and trying to pass it off as a thing?

I know cyberpunk, I know steampunk, I know solarpunk, and those I can accept as “more than an aesthetic”, tho steampunk is mostly an aesthetic… but then you have for example frostpunk (a game I know nothing about), cypherpunk, silkpunk, etc. (I don’t really know how to find other bastardizations for examples, but I know I’ve come across other random nouns followed by “punk” and I find it super weird and confusing)

Is it just capitalizing on the cyberpunk/steampunk fad for naming, or do these other “punk” things actually have a legitimate claim of being punk? Is all this ___punk watering down the meaning or am I old man yells at cloud meme here?

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[–] RightHandOfIkaros@lemmy.world 14 points 4 months ago (9 children)

Typically speaking in the aesthetic sense, _punk means taking a certain look to its extreme. Cyberpunk of course infusing everything with computer technology, steampunk infusing everything with the looks of a steam powered machine, etc.

Starfield was described once as having its aesthetic "NASApunk," which sounded really cool to me when I heard it. I expected white and black, gold foil, etc. Which isn't really how the end product ended which was a bit disappointing, but the point remained that calling it "NASApunk" had me immediately expecting a certain aesthetic.

In the case of Frostpunk, I am not sure. It takes place in a frozen world, but it doesn't have an aesthetic to fit that name so it may just be a title.

[–] BubbleMonkey@slrpnk.net 5 points 4 months ago (2 children)

When I think of __punk, I think about it having a whole -way of life- change, not just an aesthetic change. Cyberpunk incorporates all of the dystopia of deeply embedded tech and stuff. Solarpunk is the whole “living with nature” ideal, even steampunk had to reimagine how things would work (tho admittedly that’s way more of an aesthetic than the other two imho).

So it’s basically a meaningless term then? That’s disappointing. I really want to explore other… hypothetical options I suppose.

[–] nyahlathotep@sh.itjust.works 4 points 4 months ago

It's not meaningless, it's just evolved into signifying an aesthetic/lifestyle different from the norm. English is a living language, so many words change in meaning over time

[–] SnotFlickerman@lemmy.blahaj.zone 3 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (1 children)

I don't know, crustpunks were a real thing.

What's preventing you from exploring hypothetical options like Furrypunk, Meatpunk, Tallowpunk, PharmacyPunk, Leatherpunk, or Candlejackpu----

[–] BubbleMonkey@slrpnk.net 1 points 4 months ago

I probably have explored furry punk to some extent - any game/cartoon in which the main character is a non-human animal technically counts for that, I should think. Bonus if they are anthropomorphized. But it’s not called furrypunk afaik, or I’d probably throw that in too.

Beyond that I have no idea what those things even would be. Tho the current state of the US is very meat based so I think you’d have to go vegpunk on that one, at least where I’m at, for it to be an alternative option.

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