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just so this doesn't overwhelm our front page too much, i think now's a good time to start consolidating discussions. existing threads will be kept up, but unless a big update comes let's try to keep what's happening in this thread instead of across 10.

developments to this point:

The Verge is on it as usual, also--here's their latest coverage (h/t @dirtmayor@beehaw.org):

other media coverage:

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[–] BobQuasit@beehaw.org 13 points 1 year ago (16 children)

My concern is that communities on Lemmy are fractured by instance. You CAN read or subscribe to communities on any instance, but communities with the same topics (or even the same names!) on different instances are in no way connected. For example, there can be a community called "Books" on every instance, but if you subscribe to one you will NOT see posts in any of the other Books communities on other instances. You'd have to go out, specifically find each one of them, and subscribe to them separately.

Not to mention communities with different names, but that cover the same essential topic. For example, I'm subscribed to the "Literature" community here. It's nice. But it's entirely disconnected from any of the "Books" communities on other instances. I'm not sure how that sort of fracturing could be addressed. I understand that there's a plan to eventually allow "MultiReddit" style aggregating, allowing users to group a number of communities into a single reading group, but that would only apply to what that individual user would read. No one else would have the benefit of seeing all the posts from those communities in a single group unless they individually recreated that collection.

What might work would be to bake in a set of standard all-instance communities which would automatically merge the content from all instances for those topics for all users. But I'm not sure that would work, since not all instances have to federate with all other instances.

[–] setsneedtofeed@beehaw.org 14 points 1 year ago (12 children)

I don’t think of that as a negative. It’s a different structure than Reddit.

Each instance would be a community in the cultural sense. All of the Lemmy communities within that instance would be a place for primarily the same instance users to gather. Each instance having its own cultural identity. Decentralized.

[–] SeeJayEmm@lemmy.one 9 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

There's pros and cons to both centralization and decentralization. I like the idea and the goal of decentralization and federation but you run into issues like this, that are counter-intuitive and will be a road block to broader acceptance. Especially with smaller communities.

I think having the option to aggregate those communities into one view could bridge that gap. Have it be optional. Heck, even allow users/servers to block specific communities if they want.

I like the idea of Lemmy but I don't like the idea of having to subscribe to 7,10,15 different versions of a topic of interest spread across 25 different servers. Let me sub to "Technology" and have a toggle to display "all Technology communities across federated servers".

[–] setsneedtofeed@beehaw.org 8 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I’m of no doubt that apps will eventually allow users to manually create multi-Lemmys.

I just think we should kind of chill on trying to 1-for-1 replicate Reddit, or ask for all the features straight off. Reddit has been around for over a decade and the apps and ecosystem have matured a lot. Some of that takes time to happen, since internet communities drive sites so I’d rather give it a bit before making changes.

[–] SeeJayEmm@lemmy.one 2 points 1 year ago

I just think we should kind of chill on trying to 1-for-1 replicate Reddit

I don't think I want (or was asked for) a 1-to-1 replica of Reddit. Like I said, I get the pros of open source and federation. I'm just pointing out an immediately apparent pain point that I'd like to see be addressed at some point.

[–] asexualchangeling@lemmy.ml 6 points 1 year ago

I like the idea of Lemmy but I don't like the idea of having to subscribe to 7,10,15 different versions of a topic of interest spread across 25 different servers. Let me sub to "Technology" and have a toggle to display "all Technology communities across federated servers".

Or maybe just have communities tag themselves, and make it so you can sub to tags? With the ability to add exceptions

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