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[–] TheGrandNagus@lemmy.world 5 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (15 children)

So you brought up an optional piece of software with an email log in and treated it the same as enforcing a log in. Cool.

Asus having software you can optionally use to control your display and other Asus peripherals/components is very different to enforcing a Meta/Facebook account to use a display.

That is not the same and the comparison is ridiculous.

If Facebook said that accounts were completely optional and only used to access their store or whatever then there would be zero issue.

But that's not what they do. You have to log in and create an account just to have an HDMI signal and basic gyroscope functionality.

[–] MudMan@fedia.io -5 points 4 months ago (14 children)

No, I made a passing comment about how the comparison the OP made isn't particularly effective and, in the social media 200m obstacles you have decided to create a tangent nitpicking that caveat to death because you think it scores points instead of being an obnoxious stalemate.

So no, it's not "the same", what it is is relevant to note that pretty much every piece of hardware you buy does at least request that you log in to a service and, of course, the part you're actively ignoring, which is that all dedicated hardware and software platforms in the market, VR or not, do require a mandatory login.

So can we get back to the point or do you want to keep litigating your deliberate misrepresentation indefinitely? I see you have plenty of time, given you got so antsy about waiting 30 minutes for a response.

[–] TheGrandNagus@lemmy.world 4 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (13 children)

No.

In reply to someone complaining that a head mounted display forces you to have a Facebook/Meta login in order to use it at all, you brought up that "a bunch" of monitors also "ask" that you do the same.

But:

  • asking is not the same as forcing.

  • monitors don't do that anyway, your argument is a lie.

I have never seen a monitor's OSD popping up and pestering you to sign in.

all dedicated hardware and software platforms in the market, VR or not, do require a mandatory login.

That is not true either.

[–] GreyEyedGhost@lemmy.ca 1 points 4 months ago (1 children)

I honestly don't put it past Samsung. Their TVs already do. I have an old monitor, and I'm currently using what will probably be my last smartphone from them. They make good hardware, but I'm tired of them insisting on knowing everything I do to use it.

[–] TheGrandNagus@lemmy.world 1 points 4 months ago (1 children)

They do not ask you to login to use your monitor.

[–] GreyEyedGhost@lemmy.ca 1 points 4 months ago

Yet. Their TVs, on the other hand, will do everything in their power to go online. Their phones just had an update to their software where the privacy policy is basically "We need access to all your data if you want to use anything beyond the base functionality." So, given the trends, no, I don't put it past them.

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