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Discussion of climate, how it is changing, activism around that, the politics, and the energy systems change we need in order to stabilize things.

As a starting point, the burning of fossil fuels, and to a lesser extent deforestation and release of methane are responsible for the warming in recent decades: Graph of temperature as observed with significant warming, and simulated without added greenhouse gases and other anthropogentic changes, which shows no significant warming

How much each change to the atmosphere has warmed the world: IPCC AR6 Figure 2 - Thee bar charts: first chart: how much each gas has warmed the world.  About 1C of total warming.  Second chart:  about 1.5C of total warming from well-mixed greenhouse gases, offset by 0.4C of cooling from aerosols and negligible influence from changes to solar output, volcanoes, and internal variability.  Third chart: about 1.25C of warming from CO2, 0.5C from methane, and a bunch more in small quantities from other gases.  About 0.5C of cooling with large error bars from SO2.

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[–] Yawweee877h444@lemmy.world 107 points 3 months ago (24 children)

For better or worse (definitely worse), we're going to stroll right into the horrors that global warming is going to give us. We won't start making necessary changes until it's way way past any tipping points.

The people that care have no power. The people in power are driven by capitalist profit motives.

If you're a sci-fi nerd like me we can hope aliens or a true AGI will take over and save us lol. Short of that I have no confidence, mad max dystopia by 2100 or sooner.

[–] silence7@slrpnk.net 44 points 3 months ago (11 children)

It doesn't take aliens or a true AGI; it takes stopping fossil fuel use, ending deforestation, and phasing out a few trace chemicals. Do that, and we end the rising temperatures

Making that happen is a matter of seizing power from those who profit from the current system of extraction and burning.

[–] Yawweee877h444@lemmy.world 32 points 3 months ago (4 children)

Oh I totally agree with you, but

a matter of seizing power from those who profit from the current system of extraction and burning.

This is the problem. To say this wouldn't be easy is a huge, gargantuan understatement.

The power and control is so far reaching and deep into the foundation of our society, I can't help being cynical. By using politics and propaganda techniques huge portions of the population have been convinced that global warming either isn't real, isn't important, or is actually a good thing. And this is only one hurdle to overcome along with many others.

The question is how do we seize power back.

[–] zqwzzle@lemmy.ca 8 points 3 months ago (1 children)

“Those who make peaceful revolution impossible will make violent revolution inevitable."

[–] nlgranger@lemmy.world 3 points 3 months ago

I'm a bit dubious that revolutions can be effective nowadays against a well organised oppressive state with present tools (propaganda, police, surveillance, corruption). All revolutions have failed over the last few decades (Iran, Venezuela, Syria, Tunisia then Arab Spring, etc.).

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