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[–] raspberriesareyummy@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago (19 children)

I'd argue gravitational force isn't lethal. As long as you don't arrive at whatever is pulling you & the gradient of gravity doesn't change across your body length. You could be perfectly fine (for a while) orbiting a black hole at enormous speeds (assuming you don't collide with matter in the accretion disc.

[–] cecilkorik@lemmy.ca 15 points 1 year ago (6 children)

I'd argue against that. For one thing it is impossible to imagine a situation where there is no change in the gravitational gradient across your body over time. Your orbiting a black hole situation is a perfect example of a situation where the gradient alone would tear you apart. The conditions you've specified are tautological. There's no way to maintain a zero gravitational gradient while also simultaneously having extremely high gravitational field. The two are mutually exclusive in any conceivable scenario.

It's like saying a human being in a hypersonic wind stream won't necessarily hurt you, burn you alive and rip you to pieces (not necessarily in that order) as long as there is no turbulence and you have a sufficient boundary layer -- but you're a non-aerodynamic human body in a hypersonic wind stream, so of course there will be turbulence and the boundary layer will not protect you at all, you're going to die, basically instantly.

[–] raspberriesareyummy@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago (5 children)

Does the change in gravity gradient across your body kill you right now? No? You are currently orbiting the supermassive black hole in the center of the milky way. You and everything else in the milky way aside from a few intergalactic objects just traveling through.

I am not an astrophysicist, but I do understand basic physics.

[–] jon@lemdro.id 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

If the gravity were strong enough and the source close enough then the tidal force would absolutely be strong enough to simultaneously crush you and rip you apart. The same effect gives rise to tides on this planet, hence the name.

[–] raspberriesareyummy@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Your orbiting a black hole situation is a perfect example of a situation where the gradient alone would tear you apart.

I just proved this claim of yours wrong, and then you move the goalposts. I said from the very beginning that a gravity gradient is a problem.

[–] jon@lemdro.id 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

I studied Relativity at university as part of combined Physics/Maths degree, but please feel free to continue entertaining us with your popular magazine-based learnings.

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