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It is baffling to me how many people want to copy Reddit voting system, including hiding voting history, despite having left Reddit. The entire voting system over there is a huge part of the toxicity problem.
Downvotes should be removed, all votes public. Accountability changes peoples’ behavior and I can tell you that before kbin.social went down you could definitely see the difference.
This is clearly an unpopular opinion and I will be downvoted like crazy for it, but it is so exhausting watching forum after forum make the exact same mistakes.
The problem with seeing people's votes is you don't have context for why they voted that way. Did they upvote because they agreed, or because they thought it was an engaging counterpoint in an interesting discussion? Maybe they just thought it was funny or wanted the thread it was part of to be more visible. Someone looking at your votes could choose whatever perception they want if they decide to go after you for it.
How is that any different than what we see currently? We have no clue why people vote on our posts and comments one way or another
It is different in that the barrier to a user looking at your votes and choosing whatever perception they want is currently much higher.
What barrier? There is no barrier. You see the number and you make a snap judgment. If someone wants to obsessively check my vote count they’re free to waste their time. If they stalk me I block them. I don’t see what this is solving .
This is about seeing what posts you voted on. Like if you upvote a post that someone disagrees with for whatever reason or you downvote someone's post they could see that and go after you for it. Regardless of why you did it.
People already do this based on people’s comments.
Shitty people are going to try and find ways to get under your skin all the time. None of these things we’re talking about solve that. What I am talking about is fostering a less toxic culture in the aggregate. Individuals will do what they do.
Right but we don't need to give them the tools to do it even more.
What tools are we giving them? If anything downvotes are a tool they abuse already. May as well take it away
The post is about giving everyone the ability to see how everyone else votes on individual posts/comments. For instance if you downvoted this I would be able to look it up somehow and see it was you as opposed to it being anonymous. I don't care if I get downvoted but there's a lot of wackjobs on the internet who might use that as a reason to harass someone.
Then block them. You think this is suddenly going to be a daily occurrence or something?
No I don't but there's no reason to give them the option at all. There's no positives to votes being public.
True, really wish that could just be a them problem though.