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[–] jet@hackertalks.com 53 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (9 children)

Death by algorithm

It's inconsistently applied, there's no appeal, but it's cheap and you don't have to hire human moderators... And Google does love things that have global scale, so even if it's wrong, is it wrong enough for Google to care? No not at all

The fact that there's no feedback to the video owner is an indictment of the whole process.

I genuinely believe Shadow banning should be antithetical to social media. Maybe even against the law. The most cogent argument I've heard in defense of shadow banning is, if people know their shadow banned, they'll try to avoid the ban... This argument is the same as gaslighting, we think it's better to gaslight people than to argue with them about the truth.

[–] cmnybo@discuss.tchncs.de 18 points 2 months ago (1 children)

On many sites you can find if you're shadow banned just by trying to view your posts while logged out, so that breaks that defense of it.

[–] jet@hackertalks.com 11 points 2 months ago

I don't believe this, but I'm going to argue in favor of shadow banding argument here:

Most people, even if they know how to check, won't bother logging out to verify the post is banned or not banned. If somebody's posting a lot of things, how would they even know one thing is banned? What would draw attention to it? Telling somebody hey this one thing you posted out of the 300 you posted yesterday is banned, will draw their attention, and they might work around the ban.

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