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[–] chloyster@beehaw.org 46 points 2 weeks ago (22 children)

I feel like short of making it free to play and having a complete art style rework this game doesn't have great hopes of ever being relevant. I mean from what I've gathered the gameplay itself is decent to good. But yeah they just misfired so hard with this.

Despite it all, I feel bad for the majority of devs who spent so much of their life working on this and who are likely going to be out of a job. Of course I don't know anything about the inner workings, but I'd be willing to bet it's not most of their fault's that sony had been pushing so hard for live service stuff under their former leadership

[–] sp3tr4l@lemmy.zip 15 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (3 children)

I do not think this will go F2P at some point in the near future.

If you spend 8 years and 200 million + dollars on something that you expect to ... you know, at the very least, recoup that cost... and it doesn't even make a fraction of a percent of that?

At that point, someone with some modicum of business sense is likely to realize they've been chasing the sunk cost fallacy for almost a decade and that throwing even more time and money at this to develop it even more probably is completely insane, as its already shown that nobody wants this product.

I think its more likely this will be totally scrapped barring a few assets and code snippets that might be cannibalized into other projects.

This whole thing is an utter disaster from a branding perspective, if the core gameplay systems later emerge in some other game, its going to have nothing to do with the whole grand expanded universe they've envisioned and promoted as being a huge draw to this game.

As for the devs, sure I feel bad for them in theory, but it doesn't help that you've got at least one that calls everyone criticising the game a 'talentless freak' and then having a twitter meltdown in response to a person saying basically: wow I'm sorry this game didn't do so well on launch, it looks like a lot of time and effort was put into it.

https://boundingintocomics.com/2024/08/23/concord-dev-writes-off-critics-why-would-i-care-about-a-bunch-of-talentless-freaks-hating-on-it/

The whole 'feel bad for the devs, they did a good job, it was management that fucked everything' is seriously undercut when you basically express that opinion to a dev and they act like a 14 year old responding to people that don't like their Deviant Art OC.

[–] millie@beehaw.org 8 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

This is the problem with spending millions of dollars on games and focusing on profitability over actual quality or expression. Video games are fundamentally an art medium. You can choose to make some uninspired cash grabbing trash, and can even make a whole company built around that and make profit. But are you going to make a great game that way? Probably not.

You'd be better off with half a dozen people with passion and a comparatively minuscule budget. You might have to scale back from ultra realistic graphics and massive explorable areas with dozens of voice actors, but I don't really think that makes games any better anyway. A little 2d rpg with really basic pixel graphics can put a big project to shame if it's made with passion and emotion.

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