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[–] ptz@dubvee.org 256 points 2 months ago (28 children)

Yeah! I can't make money running my restaurant if I have to pay for the ingredients, so I should be allowed to steal them. How else can I make money??

Alternatively:

OpenAI is no different from pirate streaming sites in this regard (loosely: streaming sites are way more useful to humanity). If OpenAI gets a pass, so should every site that's been shut down for piracy.

[–] ArchRecord@lemm.ee 111 points 2 months ago (12 children)

If OpenAI wants a pass, then just like how piracy services make content freely open and available, they should make their models open.

Give me the weights, publish your datasets, slap on a permissive license.

If you're not willing to contribute back to society with what you used from it, then you shouldn't exist within society until you do so.

[–] hddsx@lemmy.ca 19 points 2 months ago (2 children)

No they shouldn’t. They should cease to exist

[–] muntedcrocodile@lemm.ee 12 points 2 months ago (2 children)

Good luck putting the cat back in the bag.

[–] hddsx@lemmy.ca 7 points 2 months ago

I have cats. Putting them back in a bag or box is easier

[–] Kalysta@lemm.ee 2 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Well if everyone who’s copyrighted work independently sues OpenAI, that cat will be deceased real quick due to bankruptcy

[–] muntedcrocodile@lemm.ee 3 points 2 months ago

Fuck copyright they used gplv3 code why isnt it open source

[–] TimeSquirrel@kbin.melroy.org 3 points 2 months ago (3 children)

Generative AI is not going back into the bag. If not OpenAI, then someone else will control it. So we deal with them the next best way, force them to serve us, the people.

[–] ptz@dubvee.org 26 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Then they can either pay for the copyrighted data they want to train on or lobby for copyright to be reigned in for everyone. Right now, they're acting like entitled twats with a shit business model demanding they get a free pass while the rest of us would be bankrupted for downloading a Metallica MP3.

[–] ArchRecord@lemm.ee 4 points 2 months ago

I think this better solves the issue.

The problem isn't necessarily the use of copyrighted works, (although it can be a problem in many ways) it's the unfair legal determination of who is allowed to do so.

[–] hddsx@lemmy.ca 13 points 2 months ago

Nobody should profit from copyright violation. Yes, copyright law needs to change, but making money isn’t an exception

[–] leftzero@lemmynsfw.com 3 points 2 months ago

Generative AI is not going back into the bag.

It probably will, though, once model collapse sets in.

That's the irony, really... the more successful it is, the sooner it'll poison itself to death.

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