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[–] gedaliyah@lemmy.world 5 points 2 months ago (12 children)

Can anyone explain to me what is going on with Organic Maps?

[–] NeatNit@discuss.tchncs.de 15 points 2 months ago (11 children)

Organic Maps thinks that F-Droid has it in for them. (Untrue).

F-Droid labels anti-features, properties of an app which are contrary to the philosophy of FOSS in some way. Organic Maps is labeled for two things:

  1. Promoting a proprietary hotels website called Kayak, by inserting links to it when looking at any hotel in the app. This is considered promotion of a non-free network. OM did not like being labeled with this anti-feature.
  2. Relying on Organic Maps's servers for downloading maps, without giving the user the option to change the server URL. This is called Tethered Network Service.

Tethered Network Service is a newly introduced anti-feature. This is besides the point, but before it was added, instances of this were labeled just "Non-Free Network Service", which was ambiguous and caused a lot of confusion. The important thing is that it's a new way to label apps.

The F-Droid app has a filter that hides apps based on their anti-features. The filter lists various anti-features to select, and an "Other" category for everything not listed. The new TetheredNet is part of Other.

Here's the problem: the default filter used to hide apps with "Other" AFs. This default was changed some months ago, but only for new installations. Old installations, even if updated, will stick to whatever was the default when they were installed, therefore they will hide Organic Maps. Organic Maps made a big deal out of this, basically trying to shame F-Droid.

According to the latest F-Droid news, this should be resolved already or soon. I don't know what the solution is, but I have a couple of guesses.

[–] gedaliyah@lemmy.world 1 points 2 months ago (4 children)

Thanks.

I've never seen a kayak link. I can't find an example or anything in the settings. Weird.

Is TetheredNet for the same reason or because the app depends on OSM data? Would that apply to every OSM based app?

[–] NeatNit@discuss.tchncs.de 3 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Kayak example: https://omaps.app/w4CNuytXo0/Hôtel_des_Marronniers a random hotel in Paris. The big K icon labeled "photos, reviews, booking" or something like that.

As for TetheredNet, it's for a different reason. It's not that it's tethered to OSM, it's that it's tethered to Organic Maps's servers serving pre-processed maps. (Organic Maps can't fetch data from OSM directly)

[–] gedaliyah@lemmy.world 1 points 2 months ago

Ahh. That helps to clarify, and it makes sense. Organic Maps is always a few days behind on updates, and only pushes them out periodically.

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