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    How do you guys get software that is not in your distribution's repositories?

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    [–] Dop@lemmy.world 11 points 1 month ago (20 children)

    Linux noob here, can someone ELI5 why snaps are bad? And how does .deb works?

    [–] kalpol@lemm.ee 2 points 1 month ago (4 children)

    The snap store is some proprietary store Canonical runs, and snaps are friggin huge in size. I don't really know though as I don't use Ubuntu anymore

    [–] lengau@midwest.social 3 points 1 month ago (2 children)

    The first two snaps I compared sizes of on my system are uv and bitwarden. The uv snap is 9.5 megs vs. the wheel's 12.2 megs, and the bitwarden snap is 97 megs vs. the Deb's 79 megs and the AppImage's 114 megs. These seem pretty reasonable - doubly so since snaps also have delta updates.

    [–] kalpol@lemm.ee 1 points 1 month ago (1 children)

    OK that's better than what I've seen. Notepadqq I think was 2.4gb and I said no to that one. But again I don't run Ubuntu.

    [–] lengau@midwest.social 1 points 1 month ago

    I don't use Notepadqq anywhere (I use kate btw), but on my KDE Neon system it's currently showing:

    $ snap info notepadqq
name:      notepadqq
summary:   A Notepad++-like editor for Linux.
publisher: Daniele Di Sarli (danieleds)
store-url: https://snapcraft.io/notepadqq
license:   GPL-3.0
description: |
  It helps developers by providing all you can expect from a general purpose text editor, such as
  syntax highlighting for more than 100 different languages, code folding, color schemes, file
  monitoring, multiple selection and much more.
  You can search text using the power of regular expressions. You can organize documents side by
  side. You can use real-time highlighting to find near identifiers in no time.
snap-id: 6iueWFAtx9P2OQz4SIW64Kry9hT8aUCL
channels:
  latest/stable:    1.4.8          2018-09-14 (855) 151MB -
  latest/candidate: ↑                                     
  latest/beta:      2.0.0-beta+git 2019-10-12 (890) 201MB classic
  latest/edge:      2.0.0-beta+git 2019-10-16 (897) 197MB classic

    It seems to be a dead project (the last release on GitHub is that same 2.0 beta from 2019), but looking at the snapcraft.yaml file, it looks like it's because they're vendoring in a pretty big chunk of KDE and gtk libraries. 2019 was before I started doing anything with snaps or flatpaks for desktops so I'm not sure what the state of KDE content snaps was then (I know there was a GNOME one because the core18 gnome content snap is installed on my system for uhh... some app that I have), but these days for desktop apps there are content snaps for gnome (published by Canonical) and KDE Frameworks (published by KDE) to deduplicate those dependencies.

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