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[–] skvlp@lemm.ee 0 points 2 months ago (34 children)

My two cents is that the two party system is thoroughly broken. But I don’t know how to fix it. Dividing the votes for those who aren’t fascist is probably not a good move though.

[–] UniversalMonk@lemmy.world -4 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (33 children)

Something has to change, no doubt. Both major parties always promise big reforms, but once they get in power, nothing really changes. Personally, I'm voting third party. I respect and support everyone’s right to vote however they want, even if it’s for the current duopoly. But that’s not the path I’m choosing.

[–] vinniep@lemmy.world 0 points 2 months ago (32 children)

Unfortunately, that means that you're taking a vote away from the candidate from the two main parties that is closest to your views, which helps the candidate you oppose the most.

The two party system is truly problematic, but when it comes to November you have two options currently and voting for a 3rd party has the same impact as not voting at all. Voting for the candidate that you oppose the least lets you put a finger on the scale to at least try to avoid the worst possible outcome relative to your beliefs and values.

[–] skvlp@lemm.ee 0 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Considering Trump has indicated he aims to abolish elections there is no upside at all in voting anything but Democrats.

[–] UniversalMonk@lemmy.world -4 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (4 children)

I'm not afraid of Trump. He's an idiot and has no chance of winning. Even if people vote 3rd party.

[–] aubeynarf@lemmynsfw.com 0 points 2 months ago (1 children)
[–] UniversalMonk@lemmy.world -3 points 2 months ago (2 children)

You have your opinion. I have mine. They differ. And that's ok.

[–] pooperNickel@lemm.ee 1 points 2 months ago

I actually don't think the opinion that lying is okay is okay. It actually seems pretty fucking awful. ThAnK yOu!!!!1

[–] aubeynarf@lemmynsfw.com 0 points 2 months ago (1 children)

The statement “He has no chance of winning” is demonstrably false, it is not a matter of opinion. arguably, the statement about third parties is demonstrably false as well

[–] UniversalMonk@lemmy.world -3 points 2 months ago (2 children)

It was my opinion. And it is still my opinion. You guys are crying over nothing. He won't win.

And I'm still voting 3rd party regardless.

[–] pooperNickel@lemm.ee 1 points 2 months ago

he won't win

Gee I wonder why you have full confidence that the guy won once, almost won again, and led in the polls for a while, won't win. It is a fucking mystery. Definitely not that you're lying. Nope. Thank you!!!

[–] aubeynarf@lemmynsfw.com 0 points 2 months ago (2 children)

You really don’t think it’s your personal vote that is the issue here?

If you have decided how you will vote, and it is a personal matter only, why have you posted 75+ articles making noise about fringe party candidates’ ballot access?

[–] UniversalMonk@lemmy.world -3 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 children)

Why have you posted 75+ articles making noise about fringe party candidates’ ballot access?

The same reason I have posted over 300 articles and comments about socialists. My post history: https://lemmy.world/u/UniversalMonk?page=1&sort=New&view=Posts

Because I think the articles are interesting. Nothing I am posting breaks the rules of this sub.

Do you think information about third parties should be withheld and censored?

Please block me if you are tired of my posts and/or comments. Thank you!

[–] pooperNickel@lemm.ee 1 points 2 months ago

This pathetic argument here is basically "I won't admit to being a liar, plus lying isn't illegal so you can stop me!"

[–] UniversalMonk@lemmy.world -3 points 2 months ago

I didn't write the articles, friend. I didn't make the news, friend.

If you don't like the information in the news articles, please write to the news orgs and let them know why you think they should withhold the information from the American public.

[–] prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone 0 points 2 months ago (1 children)
[–] UniversalMonk@lemmy.world -4 points 2 months ago

You fucking should be.

I'm not.

[–] skvlp@lemm.ee 0 points 2 months ago (1 children)

He has a very real chance of winning. He has laid groundwork, like the Supreme Court. He has people around him that are working towards their shared goal - it’s by no means a one man operation. And they have prepared. So there’s a real chance this might be the last time you get to vote.

[–] UniversalMonk@lemmy.world -5 points 2 months ago

So there’s a real chance this might be the last time you get to vote.

I don't believe he has that much power. I actually have zero fear of Trump. Not mocking that you do, I am simply saying that I do not.

[–] dessimbelackis@lemmy.world 0 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Your confidence is not warranted

[–] UniversalMonk@lemmy.world -4 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 children)

And yet, here I am with it anyway. Also, I'm not afraid of him whether he wins or loses.

[–] nilloc@discuss.tchncs.de 0 points 2 months ago (1 children)

I’m a straight white married dad and I’m not afraid for me. But I have LGBT relatives who I absolutely fear would be at the very least more discriminated against, not by trump directly, but by the fucking douchbag Christian right who think they’ll be running the place.

The problem with Cheeto Mussolini is that he’s only worried about his own outcome, and if it doesn’t affect him, he’ll let whichever group he owes the most do whatever they want. And they have a plan this time since last time he wasn’t supposed to win either.

[–] UniversalMonk@lemmy.world -4 points 2 months ago (2 children)

Christian right who think they’ll be running the place.

Trump is running for president though, not them.

[–] pooperNickel@lemm.ee 1 points 2 months ago

It's a good thing project 2025 isn't real /s

[–] todd_bonzalez@lemm.ee 0 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Ah, good thing Trump isn't aligned with the Christian Right. /s

[–] UniversalMonk@lemmy.world -4 points 2 months ago (1 children)

They don't run things. If you think Trump is an actual Christian and cares about that (besides playing up to them sometimes to get some votes), then I don't know what else to tell you.

Besides, I don't care if Trump gets elected. I'm not afraid of him.

You can care about him and be afraid of him all you want. That's totally your right. I'm not going that direction though.

I respect and support your right to have your own opinions and to vote for whoever you choose. Respect my right to do the same.

[–] todd_bonzalez@lemm.ee 0 points 2 months ago (1 children)

I don't care if Trump gets elected. I'm not afraid of him.

Yeah, I expected as much. You're a Trump Supporter after all.

I respect and support your right to vote for whoever you choose.

No you don't.

Respect my right to do the same.

No thanks. Trump Voters can burn in Hell.

[–] UniversalMonk@lemmy.world -4 points 2 months ago

You’re a Trump Supporter after all.

Nope. Not voting for him, nor do I support him. But feel free to stay mad. Thank you!

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