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Social media seems to be laughing its ass off about this tragedy, is it because the folks at burning man are perceived as frivolous hippies or something? Everyone I’ve ever met who was a regular burning man attendee has been a solid human being with strong morals, personally and financially responsible, a career. Upstanding members of society for sure. I guess all some people know is the sensationalized drugs and sex. A person died. This is a tragedy for an event that brings positivity into the world. Kind of annoyed.

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[–] Cryophilia@lemmy.world 7 points 1 year ago (37 children)

It's all relative. If the poor have gotten poorer, then the "almost rich", just by virtue of hanging on to their wealth, have edged up into "rich" territory

[–] pulaskiwasright@lemmy.ml 7 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (36 children)

Sure, if you want the extremely rich people who actually made you poor to write your narrative for them. Save your anger for the people who actually suppress wages and equity. Not people who just managed to carve out a middle class life by doing some job. Middle class people and poor people are much much closer in wealth to each other than middle class and the truly wealthy who rule this country.

[–] Cryophilia@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago (35 children)

I have plenty of anger to go around, there's no danger of it running out.

[–] pulaskiwasright@lemmy.ml 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Why not be angry at other poor people too then? They deserve it as much as the middle class.

[–] Cryophilia@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] pulaskiwasright@lemmy.ml 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

They do though. Neither one of them deserves your anger. Be angry at the people who actually set up the system that makes you poor. Not the middle class who has as much to blame as the poor.

[–] Cryophilia@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago (3 children)

The middle class didn't set up the system, but they love benefiting from it.

But even then, my main gripe with the middle class is their insistence that they're blameless and they like to pretend they're on the same side as the poor when they're constantly supporting policies to keep the poor poorer.

[–] pulaskiwasright@lemmy.ml 4 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Yes, the middle class benefits some form the current system. We want a system that benefits all. That doesn’t mean breaking the system for the people who live a comfortable life. It means making the system support a comfortable life for all.

And blaming them as a block is really stupid anyway because they don’t all vote lock step. These divisions along non-ideological divides are a silly distraction meant to keep people fighting people who are actually on the same side.

You're right, and this idiot is falling for the rich people's bullshit 100%.

[–] Apollo@sh.itjust.works 1 points 1 year ago

How do you change a system set up to benefit a class that is completely entrenched around the levers of power, without tearing down the whole rotten structure?

[–] Cryophilia@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago (2 children)

These divisions along non-ideological divides are a silly distraction meant to keep people fighting people who are actually on the same side.

Fuck you and your million dollar mortgage and your 2nd car. We are not on the same side. We just have a common enemy.

[–] cubedsteaks@lemmy.today 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

call me a skeptic but I doubt there is someone here with a million dollar mortgage and multiple cars that's just sitting around, reading lemmy.

Like what, they're reading a thread on lemmy on the way to a business meeting in their private car?

Like who are you really yelling at.

[–] Cryophilia@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

That's the "I'm totally middle class" bullshit that keeps popping up here. The average home price in a lot of cities is inching closer to $1M.

And yes, they're on lemmy. Especially the tech workers, who probably do the least amount of work per dollar in human history.

[–] cubedsteaks@lemmy.today 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

But I work in tech and I rent and don't even own a car.

[–] Cryophilia@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] cubedsteaks@lemmy.today 1 points 1 year ago

this is 4chan speak.

[–] pulaskiwasright@lemmy.ml 1 points 1 year ago

You’re acting as a pawn for the wealthy ruling class when you think like that.

[–] SnowdenHeroOfOurTime@unilem.org 3 points 1 year ago (2 children)

What a useless bullshit excuse to be hateful and averse to any actual solution whatsoever

[–] Apollo@sh.itjust.works 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I mean the middle class are pretty adverse to the solution as well...

[–] SnowdenHeroOfOurTime@unilem.org 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Oh what a cool and hip communist everyone. Look so edgy

[–] Apollo@sh.itjust.works 1 points 1 year ago (2 children)

How else do you propose to fix a system set up to benefit a certain class, a class which has firmly entrenched itself around the levers of power, without tearing down the whole rotten structure and starting again.

Don't pretend that you are for the current system for any other reasons than "I've got mine, Jack".

[–] SnowdenHeroOfOurTime@unilem.org 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I'm not 14 anymore so I won't entertain such nonsense wastes of time

[–] Apollo@sh.itjust.works 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Seems like you wasted time telling me you weren't going to waste time. I guess if that's the level you are operating at I shouldn't be suprised that you're content.

[–] SnowdenHeroOfOurTime@unilem.org 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I am not "content" I'm just not a fucking highschooler willing to rehash the same stupid bullshit arguments over and over. Yes, good point about wasting time, further replies will be ignored and you'll be blocked.

PS no one gives a fuck that you're a communist.

[–] Apollo@sh.itjust.works 1 points 1 year ago

Man you really didnt waste any more time on this did you?

[–] cubedsteaks@lemmy.today 1 points 1 year ago

How else do you propose to fix a system set up to benefit a certain class, a class which has firmly entrenched itself around the levers of power, without tearing down the whole rotten structure and starting again.

Not them but my idea for changing things includes socially engineering different ideas until they corrupt those in power. That's the only way we can really get to the 1%.

[–] Cryophilia@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Never said I was averse to solutions. I can be hateful and also want to fix the problems.

[–] SnowdenHeroOfOurTime@unilem.org 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Yeah the real way to fix capitalism is to hate people with 20% more money than you. Great plan.

[–] Cryophilia@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago (2 children)
[–] SnowdenHeroOfOurTime@unilem.org 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

You're getting nothing though. Scream at the clouds (except in your case they're not even rain clouds, they're actually just people barely better off than you but you're just too fucking stupid to understand it) if you like, you're actually helping the rich people keep their advantage

[–] Cryophilia@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

And how is that exactly?

[–] cubedsteaks@lemmy.today 1 points 1 year ago

I mean, so far we've hated the rich for quite some time now and its not really done much.

[–] cubedsteaks@lemmy.today 2 points 1 year ago

wow imagine needing to take sides..

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