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[–] UniversalMonk@lemmy.world -4 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (25 children)

I'm just posting this article that’s already available on a much bigger platform than Lemmy—I didn’t write it, just sharing it for discussion.

If you disagree with the article, that's fine, but calling for it to be censored or accusing me of pushing an agenda just because I'm posting it or it’s not what you want to read is misguided. Open debate needs different perspectives, not censorship.

I’m clarifying all of this due to past posters refusing to refrain from personal attacks and insults, as well as repeated baseless accusations that I’m a Republican, Russian, and/or that I'm not even an American citizen. And one poster has been repeating over and over that I'm not even human (?!).

So I'd prefer we stick to discussing the article’s politics rather than focusing on me personally, if you'd like to engage with me. Now if you wanna just talk crap about me but not talk to me, then feel free. But I don't really think that fits in with the spirit of this awesome community.

I’m not here to prove anything to you. I’ll keep posting content that fits the community’s guidelines, and if you feel otherwise, the mods are available. Thank you!

[–] Maeve@kbin.earth 0 points 2 months ago (24 children)

I don't have a problem with the article. I will say she has an ambitious platform, considering both major parties control both chambers of Congress.

Lemmy has gotten really toxic across instances, in the short time I've been here. The most toxic posts that pop up in my feeds come from world, not hex or ml. I'm not sure how the algo works, or if it's just s general indication of how toxic that insurance really is.

[–] UniversalMonk@lemmy.world -4 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (23 children)

I will say that Lemmy is much more toxic than I had assumed it would be. It's silly that I now have to post a disclaimer anytime I post an article here, but hopefully it can offset some of the long threads of people just saying variations of me being "Putin's personal troll, who's trying to avoid going to the front lines." lmao

I actually like Jill Stein. I was going to vote for her, but then a socialist candidate became available on my state's ballot, so I am voting socialist.

A lot of people criticize Stein, thinking she's just in the race to help Trump win, but I believe she's genuinely committed to her cause. Either way, I don’t think Trump will win the election, regardless of third-party candidates.

[–] pooperNickel@lemm.ee 0 points 2 months ago (1 children)

You certainly don't have to post any disclaimers. No one is reading them anyhow. But the fact that feel the need to do that is evidence that you're doing something wrong.

If everyone criticizes you, that doesn't make you right, in fact it might be an indication you're wrong.

[–] UniversalMonk@lemmy.world -4 points 2 months ago (1 children)

You certainly don’t have to post any disclaimers. No one is reading them anyhow.

I can see that. But as I’ve mentioned several times, I believe we should focus on discussing the content of the articles posted from here on out, in order to keep with the spirit of this community. Thank you!

[–] prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone 0 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 children)

My understanding of "the spirit of the community," is defeating fascism. Jill Stein does not fit into that spirit as she has repeatedly failed "the smell test," among many other things (like being photographed dining with Putin and other fascists).

Her "campaign" only ever exists to siphon votes from Democratic candidates and allow the Republican to win.

I honestly hope y'all are literal children, because this isn't a new phenomenon. Many of us old enough to remember have witnessed this kind of candidate show up at just about every presidential election, and they have only ever accomplished one thing. Every single time.

When a third party candidate is a possible threat to the GOP, they always drop out (e.g. RDK Jr.. There is a reason that he didn't keep running despite likely having more votes than Stein.

[–] UniversalMonk@lemmy.world -4 points 2 months ago (1 children)

My understanding of “the spirit of the community,” is defeating fascism.

And my understanding is that the spirit of the community is discussing political news. Hence the name of the community being called "politics" and in the sidebar it literally says, "Welcome to the discussion of US Politics!"

Many of us old enough to remember have witnessed this kind of candidate show up at just about every presidential election, and they have only ever accomplished one thing. Every single time.

I've been voting since 1988. :)

[–] prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone 0 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Then you should be embarrassed. Learn some history.

[–] UniversalMonk@lemmy.world -4 points 2 months ago (1 children)

I'm not embarrassed at all. Thanks.

[–] prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone 0 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Yes. Maybe you don't understand what the word "should" means?

[–] UniversalMonk@lemmy.world -4 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Oh I understand what it means. But I'm not. Maybe you don't understand what the word "not" means?

[–] prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone 0 points 2 months ago (1 children)

So because you seemed to have legitimate trouble with reading comprehension, let me break it down for you:

I said you "should be embarrassed". That implies that I'm aware of your lack of embarrassment.

Or if that's too complex for you: I know you're not embarrassed, but you should be.

[–] UniversalMonk@lemmy.world -3 points 2 months ago (1 children)

That implies that I’m aware of your lack of embarrassment.

Good. Because I'm not embarrassed. At all.

[–] prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone 0 points 2 months ago (1 children)

You know, they say repeating yourself over and over is an early sign of dementia.

[–] UniversalMonk@lemmy.world -3 points 2 months ago

Ok. Still doesn't change my opinion. Thank you!

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