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[–] KillingTimeItself@lemmy.dbzer0.com 0 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (6 children)

The spoiler candidate logic has always been sketchy.

it depends on how popular third party is. If they're getting 20-30% of the vote but no more it's extremely common for them to drop out to support the primary instead.

Anything lower than 10% and it probably doesn't matter much. RFK jr is a decent exmaple of this, although he was more "bipartisan" in terms of support, apparently.

[–] turmacar@lemmy.world 5 points 1 month ago (5 children)

The last US Presidential election decided with more than a 10% margin was Regan. The only vote with above a 5% margin this millennium was Obama's first term.

"Anything lower than 10% and it probably doesn't matter much" is a weird take.

[–] KillingTimeItself@lemmy.dbzer0.com -1 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (2 children)

this is assuming that the voter split isn't roughly at random. Jill stein is running on either extremely far left anti war sentiment, which we see among the right as well, along with cozying up to russia apparently, which only tankies and farther right people want.

That alone is pretty mixed.

Generally unless the candidate is going to pull a large enough share of the votes to the point where it enact a significant draw from the candidate hence my 20-30% figure, it really won't do anything to the voter turnout. Like i said, as we saw with RFK, it was roughly split down the middle.

Jill stein might pull more far lefties, but that's only because they refuse to vote in their best interest lmao. They wouldn't vote anyway.

[–] WamGams@lemmy.ca 0 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Conservative voters are not anti-war, they are anti-Russian war, and the Republican ticket already addresses that. These people don't historically vote for left wing parties, nor are they in this case.

The green party's base is pot smokers and college students who haven't gotten wise to the green grift yet.

Conservative voters are not anti-war, they are anti-Russian war, and the Republican ticket already addresses that. These people don’t historically vote for left wing parties, nor are they in this case.

it depends. Some of them are anti-war because they're isolationist, and they don't want to be a part of the ongoing global politics thingy. Some of them as you said, are anti russian war, which is absolutely true. A lot of these same republicans also support israel, although that might be construed differently since they are technically an ally of the US. But that is pretty the case there.

The green party’s base is pot smokers and college students who haven’t gotten wise to the green grift yet.

it's either stupid people who don't know anything about politics, or people who think the green party is a real political party lol.

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