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[–] WarlordSdocy@lemmy.world 20 points 1 year ago (5 children)

I mean there are genuine reasons you might want a house over an apartment. If you have a big family or the fact that you own it and don't have a land lord that can just raise rent and force you out. You gotta have a mix of types of housing that actually matches what the needs of the people are, which is still the exact problem we have now.

[–] door_in_the_face@feddit.nl 21 points 1 year ago (2 children)

You can also own an apartment and live in it. The problem in the US, as far as I know, is that many cities make it very hard to actually build apartments or rowhouses or really anything other than a single family house on a big lawn.

[–] Fried_out_Kombi@lemmy.world 16 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Spot on. In pink below is all the land where it's literally illegal to build anything but a detached, single-family house. And that's not even touching on all the other restrictive land use regulation, such as the insanity that is parking minimums. If we want to have a mix of housing types, it needs to actually be legal to build more than one type.

https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2019/06/18/upshot/cities-across-america-question-single-family-zoning.html

[–] HongoBongo@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] Fried_out_Kombi@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Yup, they're one of the examples I love to use on how to fix the housing crisis! They abolished SFH zoning in 2018 I believe, and their average rents have only risen 1% since then.

https://www.pewtrusts.org/en/research-and-analysis/articles/2023/04/17/more-flexible-zoning-helps-contain-rising-rents

[–] nickwitha_k@lemmy.sdf.org 3 points 1 year ago

Another part of it in the US is that the construction used in many apartments should be criminal. Every corner possible is cut. In every one of my apartments, save the one that was a converted 1920s hospital, I could gain access to neighbors' apartments through the ceiling, if I wanted, with no tools beyond a chair to stand on.

Every apartment that I've lived in also had electric baseboard heating placed before windows and poorly insulated, often mold-infested walls, the windows were usually modern and well-sealed (except for one that was not properly flashed, causing water to pour in during a storm), this means that the placement was about as energy inefficient as possible - without drafty windows, that placement just resulted in thermal loss through the shoddy insulation.

And that's before the landlords who cut every corner possible in maintenance, legal or not.

Quality construction would likely help with adoption of owner-occupied apartments but, that's something that we're unlikely to see without forcing it.

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