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https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/devel@lists.fedoraproject.org/thread/55H3DT5CCL73HLMQJ6DK63KCAHZWO7SX/

However, we also want to ensure that the data we collect is meaningful, so gnome-initial-setup will default to displaying the toggle as enabled,even though the underlying setting will initially be disabled. (The underlying setting will not actually be enabled until the user finishes the privacy page, to ensure users have the opportunity to disable the setting before any data is uploaded.) This is to ensure the system is opt-out, not opt-in. This is essential because we know that opt-in metrics are not very useful. Few users would opt in, and these users would not be representative of Fedora users as a whole. We are not interested in opt-in metrics.

Essentially they're playing with words to say it's opt in but if you just click Next like most users will do, it'll be enabled. The developer openly admits few users would opt in and complains that it wouldn't be useful.

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[–] gobbling871@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago (2 children)

That said, Fedora Legal has determined that if we collect any personally-identifiable data, the entire metrics system must be opt-in. Since we are only interested in opt-out metrics due to the low value of opt-in metrics, we must accordingly never collect any personally-identifiable data.

Looks like this statement contradicts with their goal.

[–] joojmachine@lemmy.ml 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

How, exactly? They've been saying from the very beginning that they don't need or want personally-identifiable data.

[–] gobbling871@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

Opt-in = Low value metrics

Opt-out = Better metrics

If I read that right, looks like Fedora is justifying application of opt-out metrics as long as there's little/no PII present in the data collected.