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[โ€“] Lettuceeatlettuce@lemmy.ml 32 points 3 weeks ago (24 children)

Combinatorics scares me, the immense size of seemingly trivial things.

For example: If you take a simple 52 card poker deck, shuffle it well, some combination of 4-5 riffles and 4-5 cuts, it is basically 100% certain that the order of all the cards has never been seen before and will never been seen again unless you intentionally order them like that.

52 factorial is an unimaginable number, the amount of unique combinations is so immense it really freaks me out. And all from a simple deck of playing cards.

Chess is another example. Assuming you aren't deliberately trying to copy a specific game, and assuming the game goes longer than around a dozen moves, you will never play the same game ever again, and nobody else for the rest of our civilization ever will either. The amount of possible unique chess games with 40 moves is far far larger than the number of stars in the entire observable universe.

You could play 100 complete chess games with around 40 moves every single second for the rest of your life and you would never replay a game and no other people on earth would ever replay any of your games, they all would be unique.

One last freaky one: There are different sizes of infinity, like literally, there are entire categories of infinities that are larger than other ones.

I won't get into the math here, you can find lots of great vids online explaining it. But here is the freaky fact: There are infinitely more numbers between 1 and 2 than the entire infinite set of natural numbers 1, 2, 3...

In fact, there are infinitely more numbers between any fraction of natural numbers, than the entire infinite natural numbers, no matter how small you make the fraction...

[โ€“] LowtierComputer@lemmy.world 5 points 3 weeks ago (22 children)

Natural numbers being infinite, how it be possible for the values between 1 and 2 to be "more infinite" ?

[โ€“] TheGuyTM3@lemmy.ml 8 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

It's weird but the amount of natural numbers is "countable" if you had infinite time and patience, you could count "1,2,3..." to infinity. It is the countable infinity.

The amount of numbers between 1 and 2 is not countable. No matter what strategies you use, there will always be numbers that you miss. It's like counting the numbers of points in a line, you can always find more even at infinity. It is the uncountable infinity.

I greatly recommand you the hilbert's infinite hotel problem, you can find videos about it on youtube, it covers this question.

[โ€“] Hadriscus@lemm.ee 1 points 3 weeks ago

Because the second one is bounded ?

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