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Why are so many Pro-Palestine (I am pro-Palestine and anti-genocide) Americans refusing to vote for Harris due to her stance on Israel? (discuss.tchncs.de)
submitted 3 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) by dependencyinjection@discuss.tchncs.de to c/asklemmy@lemmy.ml
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As the title states I am confused on this matter. The way I see it, the USA has a two party system and in the next few weeks they’re either going to have Trump or Harris as president, come inauguration day. With this in mind doesn’t it make sense to vote for the person least likely to escalate the situation even more.

Giving your vote to an independent or worse not voting at all, just gives more of a chance for Trump to win the election and then who knows what crazy stuff he will allow, or encourage, Israel to get away with.

I really don’t get the logic. As sure nobody wants to vote for a party allowing these heinous crimes to be committed, but given you’re getting one of them shouldn’t you be voting for the one that will be the least horrible of the two.

Please don’t come at me with pro-Israeli rhetoric as this isn’t the post for that, I’m asking about why people would make such choices and I’m not up for debate on the Middle East, on this post, you can DM me for that.

Edit: Bedtime here now so will respond to incoming comments in the morning, love starting the day with an inbox full 😊.

Edit 2: This blew up, it’s a little overwhelming right now but I do intent on replying to everybody that took the time to comment. Just need to get in the right headspace.

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[–] Drusas@fedia.io 57 points 3 weeks ago (46 children)

They believe that taking a moral stand against the Democrats, who are supporting Israeli genocide, is worth it even if that means that Trump, who even more fervently supports Israeli genocide, becomes president.

[–] AntiOutsideAktion@lemmy.ml 2 points 3 weeks ago (40 children)

Even calling it "Israeli genocide" is transferring responsibility. "Supporting" is an understatement. The democrats ARE THE ONES DOING THE GENOCIDE. Biden can stop it with a single phone call. Israel is not an independent state; it is a subordinate of the US.

Telling people to vote for your party, a nazi party, at the absolute peak of your depraved inhuman bloodthirst, because the other side might be worse, is the most cynical fucking thing I've ever heard.

[–] AntiOutsideAktion@lemmy.ml 6 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (18 children)

I honestly appreciate the downvotes as a counter of angry people shamed into silence

Good. You should be fucking ashamed.

[–] Mechaguana@programming.dev 0 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Yeah the "democrats are the REAL nazis" is tiring when you get comments from the republican hero agent Orange: https://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2024/10/trump-military-generals-hitler/680327/

[–] AntiOutsideAktion@lemmy.ml 15 points 3 weeks ago (3 children)

Shut the fuck up. I never said the republicans weren't nazis. I'm just fucking sick of you being an out and open nazi and acting like you fucking aren't.

[–] tangentism@beehaw.org 11 points 3 weeks ago

Their tiny liberal brains can't handle anything that isn't a binary choice.

They have fully accepted, absorbed and now spout George W Bush's slogan of "You're either with us or with the terrorists" without any irony that they are the terrorists!

[–] BluJay320@lemmy.blahaj.zone -5 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

“Everyone I don’t like is a nazi”

[–] macabrett@lemmy.ml 6 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

Everyone on the side of genocide can be called a Nazi, yes.

[–] BluJay320@lemmy.blahaj.zone -3 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

I’m not voting democrat because I “support genocide”, I’m voting democrat because if Trump gets elected, shit is about to get a WHOLE lot worse. It is damage control

You can keep sitting here and acting like a fucking child throwing a temper tantrum because you don’t like the reality of our only choices, but you are being just that. A child.

You can sit on the sidelines on your little soapbox and virtue signal all you want, but when Trump wins I won’t be blaming the republicans. I’ll be blaming all of you.

[–] macabrett@lemmy.ml 5 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

You let your mask slip by calling opposing genocide "virtue signalling". You're a bad person and a bad advocate for the democrats.

[–] BluJay320@lemmy.blahaj.zone -1 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

Whatever you say, buddy. Do something of value instead of sitting here bitching at regular people just trying to survive (aka virtue signaling)

[–] AntiOutsideAktion@lemmy.ml 4 points 3 weeks ago

I like everyone but nazis

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