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[–] theherk@lemmy.world 5 points 3 weeks ago (14 children)

Interesting. Not going to debate much further with you, but I’m always a bit envious when I run into other parents who claim they have 100% control over their kids. I don’t. My child is grown now, but I absolutely did not. They were their own person, that no matter how much I talked to them had their own life and struggles.

And prohibition does work in some cases. See, cigarettes. Smoking has been in the fall for a long time especially among the young.

But I’m glad your kid will never have any problems ever and if they do that you admit it could have been solved by you talking to them.

[–] 0x0@programming.dev -3 points 3 weeks ago (7 children)

And prohibition does work in some cases. See, cigarettes. Smoking has been in the fall for a long time especially among the young.

Prohibition only feeds black markets.

[–] TheGrandNagus@lemmy.world 5 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (6 children)

Except it doesn't, like with their smoking example.

Or, if you'd like another... there are age requirements for buying alcohol. Based on your comments, there must be a massive thriving black market for selling moonshine to kids, yet I've seen zero evidence of such a thing.

[–] EngineerGaming@feddit.nl 0 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

I have evidence in form of drinking classmates. Moderately so in my school because it was cultured, but classmates told it was much worse in their previous schools. I guess it largely comes from the families.

[–] TheGrandNagus@lemmy.world 0 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

An anecdote is not evidence. Do you have evidence?

My anecdote is that I've never even heard of children buying moonshine once.

[–] EngineerGaming@feddit.nl 0 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

I thought not about buying moonshine through specific channels but rather asking an older friend/acquaintance/family member to do it.

[–] TheGrandNagus@lemmy.world 0 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (1 children)

Even that isn't particularly popular amongst children. Youth drinking has dropped substantially over the years.

I also don't really get your point. We should stop under 18s/16s from drinking via asking their parents for some by... removing all restrictions altogether?

[–] EngineerGaming@feddit.nl 0 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

No, my point was that the reasons are way deeper than "being allowed to buy alcohol on their own".

[–] TheGrandNagus@lemmy.world 1 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

Reasons for what? What are you advocating here?

You imposed yourself into a debate where someone said restrictions have zero effect other than creating black markets. I and others pointed out that's untrue.

Then you came along and now you seem to be arguing with me then now you're agreeing with me but being really vague about it.

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