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[–] Samvega@lemmy.blahaj.zone 95 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (15 children)

This is the paradox of tolerance in action. In a world where bigotry is a tolerated political position, you will allow people to vote for bigotry.

[–] zephorah@lemm.ee 48 points 2 weeks ago (14 children)

It is, in part, because the WW2 generation is dead. They’re no longer here to offend. They’re not here to yell at anyone and shut them down for the level of disrespect they express, all around, with their bigotry. They are memory, and that war was their memory, so a lot of the social constructs around the causes of and the winning of that war have faded.

[–] Samvega@lemmy.blahaj.zone 6 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (4 children)

They’re no longer here to offend.

Immigrants, queer people, women, the disabled: all right here to offend, to their faces. But bigots don't care.

I'll accept that bigots in some way care about who they offend when you don't get black bigots who hate black people, woman bigots who hate women, immigrants bigots who hate immigrants, queer bigots who hate queer people, and so on. There are people who talk to the kinds of people they are offensive about and towards every day, and they don't care. "I'm right," they say, "you're just triggered."

[–] habitualTartare@lemmy.world 2 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

I'd make the guess that a lot of family members that would have been offended because they served or at least remember experiencing WW2 are no longer around Ref. It's easier to disregard an opinion of someone as an "outsider", even younger family members. But I'd guess that excluding grandpa/Grandma would be a lot harder when they tell you in vivid detail exactly why they fought what you're voting to have.

[–] Samvega@lemmy.blahaj.zone 6 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

I'm old enough to have met extremely right-wing WWII veterans who voted for racist policies. "It's not fascism because I like it."

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