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Elon's Death Machine (aka Tesla) Mows Down Deer at Full Speed , Keeps Going on "Autopilot" (jalopnik.com)

submitted 2 weeks ago by VantaBrandon@lemmy.world to c/technology@lemmy.world

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OK, its just a deer, but the future is clear. These things are going to start kill people left and right.

How many kids is Elon going to kill before we shut him down? Whats the number of children we're going to allow Elon to murder every year?

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[–] bluGill@fedia.io 39 points 2 weeks ago (13 children)

Driving is full of edge cases. Humans are also bad drivers who get edge cases wrong all the time.

The real question isn't is Tesla better/worse in anyone in particular, but overall how does Tesla compare. If a Tesla is better in some situations and worse in others and so overall just as bad as a human I can accept it. Is Tesla is overall worse then they shouldn't be driving at all (If they can identify those situations they can stop and make a human take over). If a Tesla is overall better then I'll accept a few edge cases where they are worse.

Tesla claims overall they are better, but they may not be telling the truth. One would think regulators have data for the above - but they are not talking about it.

[–] NeoNachtwaechter@lemmy.world 5 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (2 children)

If a Tesla is better in some situations and worse in others and so overall just as bad as a human I can accept it.

This idea has a serious problem: THE BUG.

We hear this idea very often, but you are disregarding the problem of a programmed solution: it makes it's mistakes all the time. Infinitely.

Humans are also bad drivers who get edge cases wrong all the time.

So this is not exactly true.

Humans can learn, and humans can tell when they made an error, and try to do it differently next time. And all humans are different. They make different mistakes. This tiny fact is very important. It secures our survival.

The car does not know when it made a mistake, for example, when it killed a deer, or a person, and crashed it's windshield and bent lot's of it's metal. It does not learn from it.

It would do it again and again.

And all the others would do exactly the same, because they run the same software with the same bug.

Now imagine 250 million people having 250 million Teslas, and then comes the day when each one of them decides to kill a person...

[–] bluGill@fedia.io 2 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Tesla can detect a crash and send the last minute of data back so all cars learn from is. I don't know if they do but they can.

[–] NeoNachtwaechter@lemmy.world 1 points 2 weeks ago

I don't know if they do but they can.

"Today on Oct 30 I ran into a deer but I was too dumb to see it, not even see any obstacle at all. I just did nothing. My driver had to do it all.

Grrrrrr.

Everybody please learn from that, wise up and get yourself some LIDAR!"

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