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Yep and even maintaining this appearance - there's still a large chance they won't pull in enough red voters to beat Trump.
The idea that any one is switching tides in an environment this polarized is idiotic.
I know this won't be a popular comment. But the left has played a huge emotional role in tha polarization. This is a difficult comment to accept, a difficult role to accept - because it's irrational.
That's the nature of emotions. They don't necessarily make rational sense. But Trump and the Republicans aren't playing by the same sensible and rational politics the left and Democrats have been.
The Republicans have been running an emotionally driven narrative based campaign that's most successful with men... And the left has ignored this and often fallen into its trals. Played a part, a large part in defining this process.
Obama addressed Black men, accused them of not fully supporting Harris because "they don't like the idea of a woman being in charge." He decided what they were thinking as if he knew, spoke down to them in this manner, scolded them emotionally.
This is going to turn a section of those voters off.
Biden, said Trump supporters are "garbage", echoing Hillary's "Basket of Deplorables" moment. A section of voters that don't like that sort of politics, politics that goes after them emotionally, judging them, will be further solidified in an emotional sense to their vote for Trump. Those hearts won't be softened now. Those votes can't be won. It's emotional. It's further polarizing, and it's being done by leftists.
The irony is, Kamala herself isn't doing it. High level supporters are. Frankly lots of leftists are.
When Trump wears a garbage man uniform to express sympathy for his supporters having been told they're garbage, it wins their loyalty. Their appreciation. It's emotional for them.
Most leftists call them stupid and wonder why they're stuck in the MAGA cult - they've been driven there. By an emotional narrative that only one side sees or knows how to properly curate and interact with. That narrative has kept them there. Made it an alluring and welcoming emotional home for them to be comforted by, whilst the other side judges them for it.
The left don't realize this, and it's really too late to. But this is indeed what's been happening all along. The left have played a huge part in setting up what might be a huge loss for them, and possibly a huge loss for the future of American democracy.
I understand you don't want to hear this. It might even make you feel judged. But I needed to tell you, because it's the truth.
You're catching downvotes, but you're not wrong.
The emotional vibe from the left is: "If you're not enough of a leftist according to my unique standards, you're basically the worst person to ever exist. And don't ask me to explain, cuz it's not my job to educate you."
The emotional vibe from the right is: "Welcome home, you clever protagonist you. You knew the truth all along, you just needed the courage to admit you knew it. Hey, while you're here, I'd like to introduce you to a few other things you might not realize you already believe."
The supreme irony is: The right doesn't believe in democracy. They don't believe you can persuade people and get them on your side and move forward with a cohesive vision of governance. Yet they're doing a better job of persuading people than the left is.
Yeah, and I'm like not glad we're seeing the same thing here... And I think you're gonna cop some more downvotes too. The point I want to make to others is - we're not pointing this out to attack anyone or because we want this perspective to be true. I don't know about you, but I'd prefer to be wrong here.
I'd prefer if everyone was rational and emotions just didn't come into it... But they do!... And I don't have an answer for that other than trying to get people to see they do. To see that's a huge driving factor for a lot of people.
People who get to vote! People who will be voting! You only have to see the emotional logic of what's been going on once! Then you'll start to recognize the landscape when someone say Trump voters are so stupid or How did our country get to this point... Because I see how, now that I see the emotional journey some Trump followers have fallen into.
...and that's not to say all of them. Because I don't think this is true for people like Steve Banon, or Kevin Roberts (head of Project 2025), or Stephen Miller, or even Elon Musk. But for some of his followers - very low level people, this has totally been the journey they've been on, the emotional narrative that's become locked in hard for them.
It's gonna take vision and empathy, and humor to mount any sort of response or gentle reversing of it. To get any sort of deprogramming done... And that climate is a long long LONG way down the road, and may never come!
So this chapter of America's politics becomes another solidifying chapter in the mainstream two party system.
If you're interested, my comment was basically a sample of this fantastic interview with Anand Giridharadas: https://youarenotsosmart.com/2023/04/02/yanss-256-anand-giridharadas-wants-americans-to-change-their-minds-about-their-ability-change-other-americans-minds/
Thanks I'll check it out!