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[–] turbowafflz@lemmy.world 234 points 2 weeks ago (62 children)

The fact that companies think client side anti cheat is a good idea is so insane. Maybe try designing your server better instead of blaming the operating system for not letting you control your users

[–] KLISHDFSDF@lemmy.ml 29 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (58 children)

Genuinely curious, because this isn't my area of expertise, but how do you design a server to be "better" if it has to trust data from a remote client?

Example, if the client is compromised - because as they've said, they have no way to "attest" that the kernel is not compromised - how would the server know any better?

If my Apex client tells the server I got a perfect headshot, how would the server know I didn't fake the data? Is there a real answer to this problem or are we just wishing they come up with an impossible solution?

My general understanding is that EA is 100% correct. Now, on the other hand, maybe the should just limit plays between Linux <-> Linux so people can at least still enjoy the game (I'm moving to Linux soon so I'll basically no longer be able to play the game, which is, as my primary gaming addiction, a huge loss I'm willing to take).

There's compromises EA could take, but I think the Linux market share is just too small for them to care to spend any resources - even though they're raking in billions (~$3.4 Billion) and could spare a few resources to find a good middle ground. Capitalism at it's finest.

[–] Blackmist@feddit.uk 4 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Keeping untrusted clients in their own ecosystem is an interesting idea, and would let people access the game without affecting anyone in the "trusted" chain, but you will all be lumped in with the obvious cheaters with blatant speed/flying/aiming bots.

If you were playing without cheats on Linux, I'd imagine you'd stop soon after.

The best idea would be to let people run their own servers and then allow or IP ban cheaters themselves, but I guess with everything needing to make money from skins and paints or whatever the fuck Apex sells, that's out of the question and has been since about the Xbox 360 era.

[–] KLISHDFSDF@lemmy.ml 1 points 2 weeks ago

Yeah it didn't occur to me that I'd be relegated to playing with cheaters until after I posted. Best to just let the game go.

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