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Drag wants a refund because the game doesn't allow gender customisation. Drag bought the game because it's a Dungeons and Dragons game. D&D is supposed to have good character customisation. Drag doesn't like CRPGs without gender select. Drag is trans and AMAB. Drag spent 18 years forced to live as a man, and isn't interested in spending any more time like that. Drag is absolutely fine if a game has a male protagonist you can't customise. The Master Chief is fine. Geralt is fine. But when drag is supposed to create a character and put part of dragself into the character, drag doesn't want to do that with a man.
Drag thinks that given it's a D&D game and a CRPG, there should have been a warning about limited gender options. Drag did read the game description that he/hims the Nameless One, but didn't read much into it because it's a 90s game, and old games are just like that. Morrowind does the same thing, and in fact NPCs will misgender you if you play a female character in the actual game. Drag assumed Torment would be like that, since the store page made a point of bragging about the customisability of the Nameless One. "Pick Your Path: Character creation is just the beginning. The Nameless One can change his class, alignment, and even gain new abilities based on your choices." Drag thought this would mean there would be customisability.
Steam disagreed, and said there's no legal defect in a game with this problem. Drag sees this as a symbolic issue, and would like the refund anyway. Again, please argue with drag's reasons for wanting a refund in reply to this comment and not in the rest of the thread.
Well, since you've invited us to argue...
The Nameless One is not much different from The Master Chief or Geralt. The game is telling the story of a specific character. In this case, that character is a man. The fact that it's based on D&D is kind of irrelevant; it sounds like you made an assumption that wasn't stated anywhere, and are now trying to finagle a refund far outside of the refund window as a result.
While I certainly understand and sympathize with not wanting to play a character that doesn't match your gender, it strikes me as kind of hypocritical to be okay with doing so for some games but not others. Personally I'd say, don't play it if you feel strongly about it, but it's not grounds for a refund.
Yeah, TNO is absolutely an individual character you happen to be in the shoes of.
Without spoiling anything, the game IS TNO's story.
If that doesn't interest you, best of luck in your refund request.
That being said, I've only gotten around to getting one tattoo in my life - The rune of torment.