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[–] Vespair@lemm.ee 13 points 1 week ago (13 children)

I guess I should add that I'm not speaking to this game specifically since I've never played it. I really enjoyed Dragon Age: Origins but frankly felt like I got everything I needed of the world from it and haven't been interested in any of the sequels. So I won't be playing DA: The Veilguard, but that reason has absolutely fuck all to do with the inclusion of any social politics.

[–] loutr@sh.itjust.works 16 points 1 week ago (12 children)

If you read the article you'll see that the author takes issue not with the inclusion itself, but the hamfisted way in which it is included. Pandering can be fine, but when it's just checking boxes in a cringy, lazy way it's not, and worse it becomes fodder for the gamergate type to rage about.

[–] interurbain1er@sh.itjust.works 6 points 1 week ago (8 children)

Complaining about "the way it's included" has been a trick to try to gatekeep minorities that dates back from to the origin of time.

For those people always pretend it's ok to include X except in "that particular context" or "in that particular way" and unsurprisingly enough it's never the right context or the right way. Unless of course the context is out of their way.

I've seen the same boring argument repeated for every single minorities over the last 50 years.

[–] loutr@sh.itjust.works 2 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Did you read the article? I found it pretty convincing, as an example "non-binary" is not a word I expect to be said in a fantasy setting. The author also mentions a fantasy book where it's done much more naturally.

[–] interurbain1er@sh.itjust.works 0 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

Did you write a guidebook of acceptable words and concepts in fantasy ? I ask because if you're so bothered by the introduction of new words into fantasy literature I'm assuming you don't read anything with any words invented after the release of the Epic of Gilgamesh sometime in 1155 BC.

It's a violently stupid argument.

[–] loutr@sh.itjust.works 1 points 1 week ago (1 children)

I'm not bothered at all lol, I would have already forgotten about it if you weren't so bothered yourself :) But yeah, IMO it would have been better if they had used a less "modern" word. You did notice that fantasy characters usually don't speak like they're from the 21st century, right?

[–] interurbain1er@sh.itjust.works -2 points 1 week ago (1 children)

usually

So you admit that they sometime do ? Kinda kills your whole point. 🤷

[–] loutr@sh.itjust.works 2 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Only a Sith deals in absolutes.

[–] nickwitha_k@lemmy.sdf.org 1 points 1 week ago

Sith are a fictional sect of religious space wizards from a space opera. While they may have inspiration from religious sects of reality, they are very much not real. So, whether or not they deal in absolutes has absolutely no consequences to reality outside of the Star Wars fandom.

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