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[–] JeffKerman1999@sopuli.xyz 29 points 1 week ago (16 children)

I really don't care, do you?

If people didn't vote for Harris it just means they are happy with fascists.

[–] VubDapple@lemmy.world 3 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (3 children)

That's one interpretation of what it could mean but one I expect is overly simplistic.

There is a difference between being happy with fascism and not feeling motivated enough to resist it. If the tide has any chance of turning towards what would be more healthy it will have to come by creating a platform that really excites and motivates a large number of people to invest in it. It has to feel authentic to those who are feeling unmotivated today eg the millions of former Biden voters who did not turn out. It should activate people who are not reliable voters to genuinely support the cause.

I'm no leftist but I do agree that Democrats and others whose main goals are to leave unchallenged the status quo of growing wealth inequality cannot win going forward. The promise of a truly experienced greater tangible quality of life, enough food, affordable housing, access to affordable medical care, debt relief, high minimum wages and/or UBI, etc would move the needle better towards excitement and engagement than abstractions like defence of democracy. "A chicken in every pot". We need another FDR. We need a strong middle class and that has to mean powerful unions.

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[–] JeffKerman1999@sopuli.xyz 4 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

Dude those are promises completely devoid of validity or meaning.

"Vote for me and I'll fix everything".

Trump says it: "great!! Let's vote him"

Any democrat says it: "but how? Have you considered the plight of the fruitfly??? I cannot vote for you unless you explain everything in every detail"

I forgot that trump just needs "concepts of a plan"

[–] VubDapple@lemmy.world 1 points 1 week ago

There is totally a double standard.

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