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[–] oce@jlai.lu 44 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (12 children)

If we ignore the actual stress of a manager suddenly finding out and asking you to report what you have been doing. Probably still possible to bullshit long enough in a big company to recover a normal situation or find another job.

[–] Mongostein@lemmy.ca 52 points 1 day ago (10 children)

This is why you shouldn’t get rid of all your work. Keep a bit and make it immaculate. If they ask why you haven’t done more, just say “nobody asked me to.”

[–] YungOnions@sh.itjust.works 16 points 1 day ago (9 children)

Problem with that approach is that they will argue that if you didn't have enough work to do, you should have asked for more. OP knowingly slipped through the cracks to, so the argument of 'I don't have a line manager to give me any' probably isn't going to cut it as their work will argue that OP should've gone to HR to sort their responsibilities as soon as they were aware.

[–] kameecoding@lemmy.world 8 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I don't know what kind of fucked up country you live in, but in my the employer- employee relationship means that the employer dictates what work you do and when, so if they don't give you anything to do that's on them.

Going further even better if you are self employed and on a cintreact thats fix rather than hours based, they have even less of a case, contract says you will charge x amount every month, if they don't contact you with any issue that's on them.

[–] YungOnions@sh.itjust.works 3 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I'm from the UK. In most working environments there is an expectation of maturity and responsibility. If you don't have enough work to do there is an expectation that you, as an employee, are responsible and mature enough to ask your manager for more as ultimately that is what you're being paid to do - work, whether you like that or not. If you have nothing to do, and deliberately do nothing about that then your employer has reasonable grounds to at least raise this as an issue. If you're not seen as a someone who takes their job seriously, then you may find yourself looking for a new one if your department needs to downsize, for example.

Also, regardless of whether your manager should've known or not, that doesn't mean your not also at fault for not telling them. If you tell them, and nothing changes, then that's a different story entirely.

Let me put it this way: if your manager turned around and asked what you've been doing for the last X months and your response was 'nothing' and then tried to pass that off as their fault, I wouldn't imagine many employers would be too sympathetic to your arguments.

[–] gamermanh@lemmy.dbzer0.com 6 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I wouldn't imagine many employers would be too sympathetic to your arguments.

Duh, they're butthurt they fucked up, but also who cares if they're sympathetic?

If your employee can go months doing nothing then you're a shite boss who's even worse than that employee, frankly

[–] YungOnions@sh.itjust.works 0 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

Duh, they're butthurt they fucked up, but also who cares if they're sympathetic?

If you want to keep the job, you should.

Look, if this works for OP and others, great. More power to them. But the reality is that, in most situations this isn't going to end up with the whole office applauding you for gaming the system and 'sticking it to the man' all whilst your manager looks on dispondantly from the background. It's going to result in a lot of uncomfortable discussions with HR and you potentially losing your job, or at the very least be given a written warning. If that's not a problem then great.

If your employee can go months doing nothing then you're a shite boss who's even worse than that employee, frankly

Sure, but that doesn't mean that the employee is not culpable as well. They have a responsibility to inform their line manager that they have no work to do. If the manager still does nothing, then great, enjoy the free time. But they should at least try. Your company expects you to be working in exchange for payment. I've seen situations where someone taking money for work they were knowingly not doing was accused of fraud. Maybe that sticks in court, maybe it doesn't, but is it worth the hassle to find out?

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