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[–] dev_null@lemmy.ml 0 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (3 children)

Of a guy stealing $1000 and not doing the job he we hired for? Good for the kid, but it doesn't change the fact he stole $1000. And put the kid in a morally ambiguous situation of having a $300 that he knows were stolen from his parents.

Edit: I think people are missing my point. There are three options:

  1. Do "real" conversion therapy
  2. Save the kid as he did, steal $700 from the family
  3. Save the kid as he did (donate the money or give it to the kid)

I'm advocating for option 3, not as people seem to think, option 1.

[–] TheTetrapod@lemmy.world 0 points 2 months ago (2 children)

Stealing from bigots isn't the moral evil you seem to think it is.

[–] dev_null@lemmy.ml 0 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Two wrongs don't make a right is what I'm thinking.

[–] Rivalarrival@lemmy.today 1 points 2 months ago

You can't purchase a belief. You can only purchase a claim. They can't buy their kid's sexuality, but you don't have to be straight to claim heterosexuality.

Neither of the two acts is a "wrong" in any legal sense, so any concept of "fraud" is off the table. There is no established set of relevant shared standards or expectations adopted by the affected individuals, so ethicality is also off the table. That just leaves morality to determine right from wrong, and morality is personally subjective: it's only a moral "wrong" if the individual perceives it to be a wrong.

Aside from situations where legally or ethically compelled to speak the truth, I think that deceiving bigots is a moral imperative. They should be lied to everywhere it is legal and ethical to lie to them.

They want to pay me to lie to them? That's a win for everyone involved.