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What is your opinion of Joseph Stalin? (lemm.ee)

submitted 2 weeks ago by AnonomousWolf@lemm.ee to c/socialism@lemmy.ml

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I believe in socialism, but I feel Stalin shouldn't be idolised due to things like the Gulag.

I would like more people to become socialist, but I feel not condemning Stalin doesn't help the cause.

I've tried to have a constructieve conversation about this, but I basically get angry comments calling me stupid for believing he did atrocious things.

That's not how you win someone over.

I struggle to believe the Gulag etc. Never happened, and if it happened I firmly believe Stalin should be condemned.

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[–] tiredturtle@lemmy.ml -1 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (4 children)

He killed loyal communists, many falsely accused of treason, and became the poster boy of the Red Scare, providing anti-communists with propaganda to equate socialism with totalitarianism. His oppressive policies, human rights abuses, and betrayal of socialist principles alienated global leftist movements and set back the progress of socialism by decades.

[–] REEEEvolution@lemmygrad.ml 4 points 2 weeks ago (3 children)

Those communists wanted to coup the USSR and had connections to the nazis. Your point is incredibly childish.

Being the poster boy of the red scare means that his government was effective enough to scare the piggies. You only get smeared if you're feared. I assume you rather had it that he'd be loved by all the piggies out there so that they would not do a red scare that would force you to use your intellectual muscles to dispell the bullshit. Reality doesn't work that way.

[–] tiredturtle@lemmy.ml -2 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (2 children)

Don't assume then, phallasy-based emotional reaction attacks are useless diversions. Learn theory, learn communication, learn.

Edit: lol the irony, those tactics aren't clever

[–] REEEEvolution@lemmygrad.ml 2 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (1 children)

Thank you for editing your post, it literally proves my point.

Maybe do not accept everything his detractors said about him as holy gospel. And stop projecting, holy shit.