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As a reminder, ClubsAll is still showing all of Lemmy's content without federating back (clubsall.com)

submitted 1 week ago by Blaze@feddit.org to c/fediverse@lemmy.world

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A post from 2 months ago which explained the context: https://lemmy.world/post/20694710

I just had a look, nothing has changed, the website is still using Lemmy's content to pretend to be active

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[–] haverholm@kbin.earth 8 points 1 week ago (6 children)

Calling in @jwr1@kbin.earth re possible domain block.

[–] vinay_clubsall@lemmy.world 1 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (5 children)

Hello @haverholm@kbin.earth and @jwr1@kbin.earth I am the creator of Clubsall. Please see my update above. Based on previous discussion, I was under the impression that until there is meaningful traffic, it is ok to give us time to implement federation. There were a set of rules proposed in another thread. However, seems like the rules were not finalized or not accepted or not distributed. If those rules are not acceptable, can we have a discussion first so we can agree what is fair and I have a chance to save clubsall?

[–] haverholm@kbin.earth 4 points 1 week ago (4 children)

Look, at a glance it looks to me like you're populating a monetised platform with content off the fediverse without attribution. That's strike one.

Then you seem to stall for time to implement federation while admitting your developer quit... and continuing the above content scraping. Strike two.

And from what I read in this thread it appears you're actively dodging defederation by using subdomains to keep scraping content. Strike three.

My concern in this is the integrity of the fediverse and its users. Yours, apparently, is "saving" a platform that leeches content off federated platforms to make a buck off those users. I don't see much chance of agreement on "what is fair".

@jwr1@kbin.earth, I stand by that request to defederate.

[–] vinay_clubsall@lemmy.world 1 points 1 week ago

Thank you for considering and responding. While I cannot change your mind, I can explain some of the strikes

This is not monetized platform, there is no way to pay me, no advertisements, no premium plans etc. I am guessing you are saying since it is not open source yet, it is monetized. That will change, we started working on changing architecture to use sublinks, but got stuck as sublinks itself is under development.
As soon as sublinks federation works, we will be able to adjust quickly. Without this I have only two choices - spend a lot of money or shut it down. I would like to avoid both if possible. Since there is no traffic, I am requesting the community to give us benefit of doubt.
The developer used various subdomains while trying to implement federation. As far as I know, the final subdomain was api.clubsall.com. My guess is that admins are blocking clubsall.com and not api.clubsall.com. If another subdomain is still active, please let me know.

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