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Escalating scandal grips airlines including American and Southwest, as nearly 100 planes find fake parts from company with fake employees that vanished overnight::Why are so many flights getting canceled or delayed? Blame a mysterious British supplier accused of falsified documents for plane components.

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[–] LillyPip@lemmy.ca 14 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (23 children)

Most planes in general don’t crash, fwiw. Most trains and cars don’t, either.

But would you rather your Uber was a Camry or a Lada Niva?

[–] Odelay42@lemmy.world 53 points 1 year ago (15 children)

Planes are vastly safer than trains.

"Passenger vehicles are by far the most dangerous motorized transportation option compared. Over the last 10 years, passenger vehicle death rate per 100,000,000 passenger miles was over 20 times higher than for buses, 17 times higher than for passenger trains, and 595 times higher than for scheduled airlines."

https://injuryfacts.nsc.org/home-and-community/safety-topics/deaths-by-transportation-mode/

[–] PM_Your_Nudes_Please@lemmy.world 78 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (12 children)

Worth noting that the per-mile and per-trip stats are different. Planes have low per-mile rates because nobody sane is using a plane to get across town. They only use planes for long-distance trips where driving/taking the train isn’t feasible. So by default, planes will have low per-mile rates because virtually every trip is a high mileage event. In short, planes drastically water down their per-mile averages.

When you look at it from a per-trip viewpoint, cars are safer. Which makes sense. You drive to work hundreds of times per year, but maybe ride a plane twice? So a single car crash is going to be a drop in the bucket when compared to the thousands of car trips you’ve taken in your life, but a single plane crash will be a massive spike in the numbers.

I just wanted to point out how statistics can be used to justify either side. Lots of people want to rely on numbers for everything, as if statistics can’t be manipulated. But they can, and you can bet your ass that if a party has a vested interest in stats showing one result over another, a team of statisticians can figure out a way to make it happen.

[–] Ryantific_theory@lemmy.world 6 points 1 year ago

Thank you, PM_Your_Nudes_Please, for an wonderfully insightful comment on the nature of statistics in transportation accidents.

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