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[โ€“] lime@feddit.nu 30 points 5 months ago (21 children)

the implication of einsteins mass-energy equivalence formula is mind-blowing to me. one gram of mass, if perfectly converted to energy, makes 25 GWh. that means half the powerplants in my country could be replaced with this theoretical "mass converter" going through a gram of fuel an hour. that's under 10 kilograms of fuel a year.

a coal plant goes through tons of fuel a day.

energy researchers, get on it

[โ€“] Fluke@lemm.ee 14 points 5 months ago (6 children)

What do you think fusion research is?

[โ€“] ICastFist@programming.dev 12 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Just a fancier way to spin turbines with steam

Fancier or more efficient?

[โ€“] tetris11@lemmy.ml 6 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (2 children)

Studies into how to make a more efficient kettle.

[โ€“] Fluke@lemm.ee 4 points 5 months ago

I mean, you're not wrong.. XD

[โ€“] CanadaPlus@lemmy.sdf.org 2 points 5 months ago (1 children)

There's a possibility of using the plasma directly for inducing electrical current, actually.

But then yeah, probably steam with whatever's left.

[โ€“] tetris11@lemmy.ml 1 points 5 months ago

now that would be revolutionary!

[โ€“] lime@feddit.nu 4 points 5 months ago

15 years away from a useful result

[โ€“] sga@lemmings.world 3 points 5 months ago

a fun fact: for the most efficient mass energy conversion, you need a huge spin black hole (preferably naked). Then you can get about 42% conversion. (there was a minute physics video about it i think)

[โ€“] Xavienth@lemmygrad.ml 3 points 5 months ago

Existing nuclear energy, too.

[โ€“] absGeekNZ@lemmy.nz 1 points 5 months ago (1 children)

No where near perfect mass conversion....

Max theoretical mass-energy conversion efficiency is under 1%

[โ€“] teije9@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 points 5 months ago (1 children)

that's still waaayyyy more efficient than coal

[โ€“] absGeekNZ@lemmy.nz 1 points 5 months ago (1 children)

That is a different level entirely.

The mass-energy conversion from chemical processes is extremely small compared to nuclear processes, you can't really compare the in any meaningful way

[โ€“] teije9@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 points 5 months ago (1 children)

yes you can. coal costs ~32 cent per kWh, and uranium ~$0.0015 per kWh

[โ€“] absGeekNZ@lemmy.nz 3 points 5 months ago

We were talking about the mass-energy conversion, for nuclear fusion.

Not really sure how nuclear fission Vs coal cost/kWh is relevant.

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