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The Grace Hopper Celebration is meant to unite women in tech. This year droves of men came looking for jobs.

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[–] sudneo@lemmy.world 14 points 1 year ago (18 children)

This is pure rhetoric, I can flip the argument:

"You care more about the gender than about my material condition."

Also, the moment I need to let prevail abstract concepts over my material condition (i.e., caring about "my group" being over represented while I am out of a job) is the moment in which the class unity is broken. Me and those women who are out of a job have so much in common that there is no reason for me to consider us part of two separate groups. That's the whole point of my argument, I advocate for worker solidarity and I absolutely feel that this attitude is overall harmful for it.

[–] Touching_Grass@lemmy.world 12 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (17 children)

I don't agree. I can be at a disadvantage and still accept that another group has even greater disadvantages that I would continue or make worse by stepping into something they built. Its freeloading in a pretty assholish way. I'm not just some animal trying to get a nut with narrow focus that says fuck everything else. I can job search and find my own opportunities without freeloading

[–] sudneo@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago (16 children)

Let me say this: to me this seems the completed detached thought of someone who never faced material difficulties.

I can only think this if I am in a position of privilege where I can choose. I absolutely can't relate with any of this, I completely agree to disagree.

[–] ZombieTheZombieCat@lemm.ee -1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

this seems the completed detached thought of someone who never faced material difficulties.

Yes, all of your comments do.

[–] sudneo@lemmy.world 6 points 1 year ago

Any specific part? Or you just wanted to do the snarky comment without committing to an actual discussion?

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