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@Joe_0237@fosstodon.org wrote:

Today I found out that google docs infects html exports with spyware, no scripts, but links in your document are replaced with invisible google tracking redirects. I was using their software because a friend wanted me to work with him on a google doc, he is a pretty big fan of their software, but we were both somehow absolutely shocked that they would go that far.

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[–] NocturnalMorning@lemmy.world 104 points 1 year ago (20 children)

Google also replaces your Google searches with different searches behind the scenes to things they can make money off kf. Found that out the other day, and switched to duckduckgo instead. Google has become a Spyware nightmare.

[–] Heresy_generator@kbin.social 94 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (18 children)

If anyone isn't familiar with this here's the Wired article

Here’s how it works. Say you search for “children’s clothing.” Google converts it, without your knowledge, to a search for “NIKOLAI-brand kidswear,” making a behind-the-scenes substitution of your actual query with a different query that just happens to generate more money for the company, and will generate results you weren’t searching for at all. It’s not possible for you to opt out of the substitution. If you don’t get the results you want, and you try to refine your query, you are wasting your time. This is a twisted shopping mall you can’t escape.

Why would Google want to do this? First, the generated results to the latter query are more likely to be shopping-oriented, triggering your subsequent behavior much like the candy display at a grocery store’s checkout. Second, that latter query will automatically generate the keyword ads placed on the search engine results page by stores like TJ Maxx, which pay Google every time you click on them. In short, it's a guaranteed way to line Google’s pockets.

It’s also a guaranteed way to harm everyone except Google. This system reduces search engine quality for users and drives up advertiser expenses. Google can get away with it because these manipulations are imperceptible to the user and advertiser, and the company has effectively captured more than 90 percent market share.

It’s unclear how often, or for how long, Google has been doing this, but the machination is clever and ambitious. I have spent decades looking for examples of Google putting its enormous thumb on the scale to censor or amplify certain results, and it hadn’t even occurred to me that Google just flat out deletes queries and replaces them with ones that monetize better.

[–] NocturnalMorning@lemmy.world 36 points 1 year ago (6 children)

I figured this out when I searched for my gaming web page on itch.io, and it wouldn't come up. But then I went to duckduckgo and did the search, and every game I've made was in the search result. Pretty scummy if you ask me. Needless to say I changed all my browsers to duckduckgo instead of google.

[–] CrypticCoffee@lemm.ee 15 points 1 year ago (2 children)

By browsers do you mean search engines in the browsers? I use DDG for search. Firefox is king, browsers wise.

[–] NocturnalMorning@lemmy.world 8 points 1 year ago

Yes, I meant search engine. I also use Firefox as well :)

[–] CherenkovBlue@iusearchlinux.fyi 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

I thought DDG was some kind of front end for Google search. How wrong am I, and if I'm right, does this mean it's the Google search in, e.g., Chrome browser that's doing this? Otherwise how would DDG be avoiding it?

[–] ebits21@lemmy.ca 5 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I thought it was Bing? I’m not sure lol. I’ve noticed the drop in Google searches quality lately and switched to DDG.

Seems much better now imo.

[–] nixchick@lemmy.ml 5 points 1 year ago

You are correct. Bing.

I could be completely wrong, may the gods of the Internet forgive me.

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