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Does this all matter though? Afaik the browser if fully open source, even the crypto stuff so all the shady stuff would be detected (and has as in your examples). Like all of the issues you linked at this point are years in the past. I don't use Brave personally but it being completely FOSS is a huge plus even if the company itself might be weird. On the other hand you have something like Vivaldi that looks like "the good guys" but you'll always have to trust them as well because they're not fully open source.
I use FF but you just cannot deny that using a Chromium based browser has many security advantages over Gecko, especially on mobile. I takes Mozilla seemingly years and years to implement security features like Chromium. They don't put the necessary priority behind this.
Using Chromium at all is supporting Google's dominance over the market. If you want to support a company that has taken advantage of its users, and committed actual crimes while doing so, be my guest. This post is a recommendation, not a rule.
Of course it does but that is a moot point and a different discussion altogether. It doesn't change the fact that Brave is fully open source, even their shitty stuff and that it's better for privacy than using a proprietary browser like people here suggest. It also doesn't change that Chromium has a better security model than Gecko.
I personally right now prefer FF (Librewolf and Mull) for different reasons still. The Chromium dominance is...well it is what it is. Definitely not the reason why I use FF. It's a losing battle. FF has been losing users forever now. The few % market share it still has will not change that Google is going to "win". When the EU forces Apple to open up iOS for Chromium the last "wall" that is in the way of total Chromium dominance will fall. FF will not do anything about that except just exist until either too many websites break or someone does something about Google controlling Chromium. Until then I'll just choose whichever browser fits my needs in terms of FOSS, privacy but also features. Right now FF is good enough despite them lacking behind in security (severely even on mobile) and I'm happy to use it.
OMG shut up. Go use Firefox and leave people alone. Firefox users are like Linux users. Can't get in a conversation without mentioning it.
That is absolutely a false equivalence