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[–] conditional_soup@lemm.ee 166 points 2 months ago (78 children)

Cool story, Bill. Who did you donate to? Why did you cut your philanthropic efforts to fight climate change and disease? Why have you and your buddies fought for minimizing and coopting government for years? Bill isn't innocent in all this, it's just a good time to blame Elon. Don't get me wrong, Elon 100% deserves it, but that doesn't mean that Bill isn't playing the PR game here.

[–] Blue_Morpho@lemmy.world 143 points 2 months ago (43 children)

Why did you cut your philanthropic efforts to fight climate change and disease? Why have you and your buddies fought for minimizing

The problem is that billionaires should not exist but come on. $80 billion already donated. $7 Billion more just for Africa. Hundreds of millions in malaria research.

https://www.forbes.com/sites/carlieporterfield/2022/11/17/bill-gates-foundation-pledges-7-billion-to-support-africa-health-and-agriculture/

Could he do more? Sure. But attacking someone who is doing a little because he isn't doing more doesn't seem fair.

Years ago Elon said he was disappointed when he met Bill Gates because Gates only wanted to talk about philanthropy and climate.

[–] audaxdreik@pawb.social 54 points 2 months ago (17 children)

The problem is that the theft begins by simply becoming a billionaire in the first place. You don't get to be one by playing nice and not exploiting a lot of people and rules along the way. Sure the government could be blamed some for not having enough regulations in place to prevent/stop that, but capitalism ensures that businesses exploit any available loophole possible to maximize profit, otherwise you're a bad business.

While I can respect a lot of those philanthropic efforts, those should not be his decisions alone to make. That money should've been paid into taxes and distributed in agreed upon ways. $7 Billion dollars to Africa is just great, but it could do a lot of help here, too. I have no issues with sending $7B to Africa, but that sure seems like something the people should agree upon first, through some sort of national aid, and not as an effort to spare the conscience of an aging billionaire.

Fuck all billionaires. Every. Last. One. Forever.

[–] Chastity2323@midwest.social 19 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 children)

While I can respect a lot of those philanthropic efforts, those should not be his decisions alone to make. That money should've been paid into taxes and distributed in agreed upon ways.

As a capitalist, all of his solutions are capitalist. His efforts to slow climate change are primarily technological, with a focus on unproven horseshit like carbon capture rather than proven improvements like better, less car centric urban planning and reducing meat intake. He would never even consider an strategy of economic degrowth to fight climate change even though available evidence shows that that is exactly what we need.

[–] arrow74@lemm.ee 11 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 children)

I think we're well past the chance of urban designing our way out of the climate collapse.

We need to make major changes in our consumption to even make a dent, but I say our best shot is cold fusion and carbon capture. Those are obvious longshots.

We've created a runaway greenhouse gas effect. Even if we cut emissions to 0 temperatures will continue to climb.

Obviously cutting emissions to 0 would give us more time to fix this mess though

[–] Chastity2323@midwest.social 3 points 2 months ago (1 children)

We need to make major changes in our consumption to even make a dent, but I say our best shot is cold fusion and carbon capture. Those are obvious longshots.

I would argue for extensive rewilding as an alternative

[–] arrow74@lemm.ee 3 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Both are good. I'm not convinced it'll be enough to stop things, but a massive help still

[–] Chastity2323@midwest.social 4 points 2 months ago

yeah we need every tool at our disposal fs

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