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On X11 and the Fascists Maggots (blogs.gnome.org)

submitted 1 week ago by Mihies@programming.dev to c/linux@programming.dev

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This is a truly WTF moment about messed up responses to X11 session removal in Gnome.

2 weeks ago I published a blogpost about the upcoming plans of GNOME 49 and the eventual removal of the X11 session. Since then, instead of looking at feedback, bugs and issues related to the topic, we all collectively had to deal with the following, and I am not exaggerating one bit:

Fascists and Nazis
Wild Conspiracy Theories that make Qanon jealous
“Concerned” Trolling about the Accessibility of the Wayland session
A culture war where Wayland is Gay, and X11 is the glorious past they stole from you

In my wildest dreams I could have never made this shit up. You all need mandatory supervised access to the Internet from now on.

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[–] potatoguy@potato-guy.space 40 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (12 children)

All these "concerned" comments about systemd, wayland, etc, always seemed dog whistling to me. I have critiques about these projects, but the specific things this specific type of people says always comes coded in some form of racism/transphobic/mysoginistic rethoric. Just changed from gamergate to linuxgate.

So i'm not surprised that they turned mask off like this.

Look at any anti-systemd channel, the comments are always the worst thing ever. Some lkml reading channels have these comments too.

[–] ricecake@sh.itjust.works 24 points 1 week ago (10 children)

I'm just confused. Like, how would someone even connect Linux software to those topics?
I totally believe you that they do, and I'm not actually interested in hearing messed up shit, I'm just...

If you asked me which topics were unlikely to have bizarre vile messaging I would have listed window managers and init systems pretty high in the list.

[–] Telorand@reddthat.com 27 points 1 week ago (6 children)

You need to think of the kind of people that are interested in nerdy computing topics. Regular people that just want to make something nice to share with the world, sure, but also incels, toxic masculinity proponents, etc.

They're mostly able to hide, because like you point out, computer science and related topics are mostly apolitical; when you make scary changes, however, those same latter people can't help themselves but to blame the villainous "They."

[–] someacnt@sh.itjust.works 1 points 1 week ago (1 children)

I am definitionally incel, wanna say that does not make me a nazi. In fact, I despise the entire tenets of nazism.

[–] Telorand@reddthat.com 3 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

Incel means more than the state of not being in a relationship, these days. Some very sad and terrible people turned it into a subculture that revolves around imaginary grievances directed at women.

[–] someacnt@sh.itjust.works 1 points 6 days ago

That's a pity, I guess some people direct their grudge to women instead of the faulty society which forced no-life lifestyle..

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