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Useless. Time for the Social Democrats to form their own party.

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[–] RattlerSix@lemmy.world 1 points 22 hours ago (20 children)

I'm sure to get dumped on for saying this but ya'll need to chill out. President's generally have authority to carry out military strikes. I can't think of one in my lifetime that didn't bomb somebody without congressional approval beforehand. Declaring war is a different matter but all the differences and nuances and where exactly the lines are, is not something courts have ever really figured out.

This impeachment resolution specifically said he declared war and he should be impeached because it's Congress' job to declare war. That's the entirety of the complaint. It's short. And it's lazy. He didn't declare war. He certainly risked starting a war, but he didn't declare one. Democrats would have looked stupid for impeaching him for something he didn't actually do and it would have failed just on the language alone. It did fail. And it should have.

All this 'democrats are traitors' or 'they're supporting fascism' or 'stabbing us in the back' is crazy. They put forth a really bad impeachment resolution and it got shot down. You should be mad at AOC and Green for putting up a horrible impeachment resolution. It probably looked better last week when it looked like a real war might happen, but I don't see anything impeachable here. If there is something, it's deep and nuanced, it's something that no one has ever agreed on the interpretation of, it's something that Congress has let Presidents get away with for decades.

We're not getting rid of this asshole by persuading the public that he disobeyed some highly nuanced technicality that nobody even agrees on. Shit, I'm getting sleepy just thinking about listening to a congressional hearing on it.

[–] TheKMAP@lemmynsfw.com 13 points 19 hours ago (1 children)

Doing a drone strike to kill specific people not officially part of a government is vastly different than destroying infrastructure that is still controlled by a country's government.

[–] scintilla@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 15 hours ago

And then calling it a war on Iranian nukes.

I feel like that is so intentionally provocative it has to be worth mentioning. Like if Japan said they were at war with Pearl Harbor not America.

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