Flippanarchy

I am not aware of any anarchists that even predict that some kind of anarchist revolution is any kind of inevitable.

And if there were some, I would disagree with them.

I am not purpoting to have some kind of perfect plan to 'achieve anarchism'.

I don't need to.

It's ya'll that tend to have a dogmatic, ideological faith in a perfect way to do things, that things should be done, that things inevitably will be done.

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Anyway, the evidence of history I am referring to is that basically all self described 'Communist' states/societies haven't ever really come close to Marx's utopian conception of a classless society at the proverbial 'end' of Communism...

They mostly either reform or transform themselves into a highly state-managed form of capitalism, or into something with less overt direct state control over a hybrid state/capitalist economy, allowing private businesses and capitalists to operate under fairly significant levels of regulation...

Both of those will almost always only ever allow a single political party, clamp down on freedom of political association/expression, speech, etc... these societies very much still do have significant wealth disparity, ergo, social classes.

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And those're pretty much the best case scenarios.

They can also just collapse into... well basically, roughly fascism; a totalitarian, nationalistic, jingoistic central state that works with, grants favors to various capitalist oligarchs, corporations, as opposed to directly managing them or heavily regulating them...

In these societies, wealth disparity and thus class disparity tends to be even more significant... and they tend to put on a show of pretending to be liberal and democratic, though the extent of that effort ebbs and flows back toward social and governmental illiberalism over time.

It can get worse than that, but then we tend to get into 'thats not real communism' or basically just meme/schrodinger's irony level argument territory, at least in my prior experience or discussions with tankies.

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I don't have a problem admitting that no anarchist revolution has succeeded in making a stable anarchist society at the scope and scale of a nation-state, with some kind of ... assumed authoritative forceful control over a defined physical region.

Partially because... that isn't really what at least I personally view as any kind of useful goal of my idea of anarchism.

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If you doubt the history of tankies back stabbing anarchists... hold please, will update with source.

EDIT:

https://theanarchistlibrary.org/library/ziq-tankies-and-the-left-unity-scam

There it is!

No sense in me retyping all of this myself.

EDIT 2:

Or maybe its this one:

https://theanarchistlibrary.org/library/various-authors-always-against-the-tanks/