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he went from ROY > all star > MVP within his 1st 3 seasons, improving his team performance each year.
it was impossible not to overproject his career, it was such a tremendous trajectory
The biggest what if in NBA history. Those Bulls won 60 games as well. He revived the franchise.
One of the biggest, I guess. He still would be going against a prime Lebron era… so, it’s not like his squad was a guaranteed chip.
Way bigger what-ifs in my opinion.
Like who? Grant Hill? Brandon Roy?
I don't think there's a a player who peaked as highly as Rose and fell to injuries except Bill Walton, and that was almost 50 years ago.
Yeah DRose is the biggest what if. He was the youngest MVP. Not even Luka or LeBron became MVP at 22. There's really no contest.
Kids these days don’t understand d rose 🌹
I was 22 when he went down. It was a shock felt across the league. Sad day. :/
Him and Dwight Howard were my favourite players at the time.
His MVP year was awesome, but let’s not conflate it with some sort of legendary year. He was 6th is PPG, 6th is WS/48, and 4th in total WS. For an MVP year it might be the weakest ones of the last 25 years. To say because he won MVP in his third year he had a tremendous trajectory doesn’t tell the whole story.
That's easy to say if you haven't watch or followed that season. Basically every single person that knows even a little bit of basketball to the GOAT himself had him as MVP. He is practically a uninanimous MVP and the main reason they're the best team in the League. I magine how people are so crazy about Luka now, and if he won MVP at 22, that would have been bonkers. So yeah, big numbers don't necessarily get you MVP, it's how you fare against your competition. Players feared and adored him at the same time. And the craziest of all, he called him being the MVP in the beginning of the season and people just brushed it off as a sign of competitiveness and extreme confidence.
I watched the season (as I have since basically the mid-80’s), like I said it was an awesome year, also I never said he wasn’t deserving. You put a lot of words in my mouth. What you’re saying can be true, it doesn’t change anything I said, he had a weak MVP season. Also I don’t agree with you that he was the only reason they were winning, they had a great defensive team, and Thibs is well known for driving regular season success at the teams detriment. They won 50 games the next season with rose playing a lot less and not as well, so clearly the team could win without him. Tbh based on what you’re saying it sounds like you probably didn’t watch that season, but I’m not going to make a baseless accusation just because someone said something I don’t like.
You didn't watch him and you know it. I watched every single game that season and if you don't think that's legendary, you are fooling yourself. He pretty much had the MVP by January. That's like Curry's MVP year, but he is 22 years old. Say whatever you want, downplay his year, it does not matter. It doesn't change the fact nobody in the history of the league had the year that he had at 22.
I didn’t watch every single game obviously and neither did you, however I watched a ton that season. How about this, tell me what I said that’s wrong, tell me what MVP year over the last 25 years was weaker? Tell me why Chicago still won 50 games the next year? Can you make an actual argument other than proclaiming you’re the expert and no one can argue with you?
The Blazers if Roy and Oden are healthy are a huge what-if team, but Rose is a bigger individual question.