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[–] Spaniard@lemmy.world 5 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (19 children)

Other countries like that and Europe deals with are: Qatar, Saudi Arabia, Russia and of course, China.

[–] LeFantome@programming.dev 20 points 2 days ago (15 children)

The digital dependence on the US is much like the energy dependence on Russia.

Europe is ditching Russian energy. They may ditch US tech.

[–] Spaniard@lemmy.world 4 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (13 children)

I don't know about the whole Europe but Spain is buying more energy from Russia than before the war and sanctions.

Don't get me wrong, I hope that would be the case but Europe is also Corporativist.

[–] Saleh@feddit.org 1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Is it more? I know Spain is still buying some LNG from Russia, but i would have thought the amount went down, not up.

[–] Spaniard@lemmy.world 2 points 1 day ago (2 children)

https://murciatoday.com/spain_is_now_the_second_largest_importer_of_russian_gas_in_europe_1000191256-a.html

As they article points out it's all maskerading by the fact that they heavily increased the import in 2023 and now is "reduced"

[–] Saleh@feddit.org 4 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Thank you for the article. It brought up something quite interesting that i wasn't aware off before:

But why does Spain rely so heavily on Russia despite the almost global disapproval? The answer lies in this country’s extensive regasification capacity, which stands at 67.1 bcm - the largest in all of Europe. This enables Spain to receive LNG shipments on behalf of other countries that lack the necessary infrastructure, making it a critical hub for European energy trade.

looking a bit into it i found this article:

https://rbac.com/spains-role-as-a-natural-gas-importer-and-re-exporter/

So it seems that Spain is also taking the flak here for other EU countries that want to profit from Russian gas but not be directly associated with it.

[–] Spaniard@lemmy.world 2 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

The European Union hypocrisy is lovely, isn't it?

[–] bufalo1973@europe.pub 1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Is there another link on that? The editor behind that page is a little... "undocumented" (there's almost nothing about it).

[–] Spaniard@lemmy.world 1 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

Sure but they are in Spanish. Murcia today is for the local brit community.

https://www.elmundo.es/economia/2023/12/01/656a15ffe4d4d8dc568b45bc.html

The same stuff over 200% increase in 2023 so others can say we dont buy stuff to Russia we buy it to Spain (who bought it to Russia). This source even points out the liquid gas that arrived by boat from Russia wasn't sanctioned.

As we say in Spain "hecha la ley, hecha la trampa"

https://www.larazon.es/economia/espana-compra-mas-gas-ruso-que-americano-ultimos-12-meses_2025030767cad38e39a0dc0001c11b79.html

Says it decrease 25%, but it's 25% from that almost 200% in 2023.

[–] bufalo1973@europe.pub 0 points 1 day ago (1 children)

And now "La Sinrazón"🤦

You do know Marhuenda was the press chief of Rajoy, don't you?

[–] Spaniard@lemmy.world 1 points 23 hours ago* (last edited 22 hours ago) (1 children)
[–] bufalo1973@europe.pub 1 points 19 hours ago (1 children)
[–] Spaniard@lemmy.world 1 points 17 hours ago* (last edited 17 hours ago)

First you doubt the claim. Then you attack the source, now you find excuses.

Did they or didn't they increase almost 200% the acquisition of energy from Russia in 2023? Is the Russian Federation a major provider of gas and oil for Spain (and other European countries) or not?

If you notice I am here only to point the hypocrisy of Europe, which they undoubtedly are and Spain is no different.

I don't know if you work for a company with business in Russia, I did when this whole thing started and contracts didn't matter much when sanctions came but I guess we weren't big enough to make excuses.

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