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$1400 for a non upgradable SSD and RAM, not to mention there are no USB, HDMI or audio jacks. What a ripoff.
linux users when a laptop that ships Linux isn't absolutely perfect and cost $20 (they don't care that it helps get linux to average users)
We are pretty happy with framework, tuxedo and system76 even if their products often cost loads of money and for sure aren't perfect.
and yet people still find ways to complain when a manufacturer that is twice as big as all of these examples combined ships laptops with linux to the hands of millions of people, most of the time costing less than offerings by these companies
Soldered SSD and RAM is something we expect from a cheap chromebook. It's just not acceptable in a high end laptop.
There are plenty of other good laptops that come with Linux installed.
including, *checks notes*, ah yes... most of DELL's other offerings with linux pre-installed
Which give you no option to forgo the Windows license.
Is it something that depends on the region? In Brazil their Linux offerings are usually way cheaper precisely because you can forgo the Windows license.
I came here to disagree with you, but in thinking a little about it, I'm not sure I do.
I find the lack of ports and upgradability extremely problematic. And while I understand they're supposed to be light, slim, quality laptops, the price point feels high even so.
But, these are personal gripes with the device. And nothing to do with Linux. But these are basically the same things Apple aims for and people seem to love that.
So, I might argue the price doesn't make it reasonable for the average user. But otherwise the more devices with Linux pre-installed, the better.